The datasheet for this part is https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/240/DS98729A(IXCP-CY10M90S)-1547388.pdf … and it indicates a dynamical impedance of 30 kΩ, minimum. Real parts will vary.
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And the 450 Volt version gives Rdyn minimum of 10K, so that would indicate that the 900 Volt version is even higher than the 160K that you mentioned.
This is where that confusion arises. The IXCP 10M45S data sheet for the same item that I have shows a completely different minimum dynamic resistance (10K). You got the Mouser version. This is a mystery.
So… again being a curious old goat, I took the datasheet of the 10m90S and “gave it a go” from a curve-fitting perspective. To a r-squared accuracy over 0.9998 (i.e. excellent), we have this formula:
I'm rather pleased with myself.
More coffee.
Ho, ho, ho!
Just Saying,
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For 10M90S IXYS part...
R = e√(65.7 - 14 ln(mA))
R = 10√(12.4 - 6.08 log10(mA))
It gives values for the cathode-series-resistor, to set a particular milliamp current … to within 2.5% of the values found on the graph. Not bad! R = e√(65.7 - 14 ln(mA))
R = 10√(12.4 - 6.08 log10(mA))
I'm rather pleased with myself.
More coffee.
Ho, ho, ho!
Just Saying,
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GoatGuy, I would be eternally grateful if you could work out the Rdyn for 6 mA. I can't concentrate at the moment, because I have a 12 hour long-haul flight coming up tomorrow. Also this: LINK
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Lucky you… going to Kerry Ireland.
I'm jealous.
It works out to about 0.20 ΔmA per 200 ΔV between 200 V and 400 V. Usuing the usual formula:
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I'm jealous.
It works out to about 0.20 ΔmA per 200 ΔV between 200 V and 400 V. Usuing the usual formula:
ZDYN = ΔV / ΔI … in standard units
ZDYN ≈ 200 V ÷ 0.0002 A
ZDYN ≈ 1,000 kΩ
Its just an estimate, of course, from the graphs on the 10M90S datasheet, but “good enough”. ZDYN ≈ 200 V ÷ 0.0002 A
ZDYN ≈ 1,000 kΩ
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Wow, 1 Meg. Many thanks. I'll buy you a beer or 2 next time I'm in the Bay Area. (Or maybe you would prefer a bottle of 20 year old Irish Whiskey).
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Walt Jung published a series of articles in AudioXpress where he measured the dynamic resistance of various different current sources (sinks). A 10M40 kind of sucks. A higher voltage version will require a larger silicone die (more capacitance) and perform more poorly at higher frequencies. If you want high dynamic resistance (and you do) you will have to switch to a cascode design. IXYS 2N50D2 on the bottom and 2N100D2 on top work well. K&K Audio sells inexpensive kits which make experimenting with CCS loads easy.
Yes, I agree totally. It's been a great help to me. All the diyAudio members are willing to give their time to help.
I have now successfully implemented the IXCP10M90S CCS as the plate load for the 6SN7 which drives the 300B. The result is phenomenal. Looks like the theory works out in practice - the dynamic resistance of the IXCP10M90S is certainly around 1MΩ at 6mA. I am using a 330K grid resistor on the 300B (yes, I know I'm living dangerously). This gives the 6SN7 a plate load of 248K - as near as dammit to a straight line.
I've measured the gain of the stage, and it is 19.8 - incredibly close to mu, but the really great aspects to this are the available voltage swing and linearity. I still need to fine-tune the bias and HT. I how have 2 Hammond 126C ISTs for use as doorstops. That was my first experience with ISTs, but I'm not dismissing them altogether - I can't see any need for them in this sort of simple 300B amplifier, now that I have been introduced to the world of Constant Current Sources.
To drive my 300Bs to a theoretical 8 Watts (7 Watts is more realistic), I need about 57 Volts RMS (80V Peak). With a gain of 20, the input to the 6SN7 driver would need to be 2.85 Volts RMS. This is well within the capabilities of all my pre-amps, and so the first half of the 6SN7 is now unused, just wasting heater Watts.
I've drawn out the operating conditions on the 6SN7 curves, and am also including the circuit of my new amplifier version in all its simplicity. It sounds just fine even with cheap Liuzhu 300Bs. Driver stage linearity enables the tonal characteristics of the 300Bs to be heard, without too much driver distortion diluting it.
Many thanks again for all your help everybody.
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Definitely with you on preferring CCS on the SN7 over any IST. I get around 0.01% distortion over all signal levels from my SN7 stage, as long as you don't place burden on the stage (as you noted, a CCS and a grid resistor only). Our designs are quite different, but that first stage is critical. In my experience iron does not pair well with the SN7, no matter what I have tried from any manufacturer. Your 300B grids do have capacitance, which doesn't help; an intermediate stage is the ideal solution to that, but is fraught with its own challenges in implementing properly. You may also not require driving the output stage at 5W on a consistent basis, so it's fine as is.
Only been to Kerry once, would love to go back. As one who has lived in Wisconsin (the dairy state) for 40 years, I can attest to Ireland having better dairy.
Only been to Kerry once, would love to go back. As one who has lived in Wisconsin (the dairy state) for 40 years, I can attest to Ireland having better dairy.
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