It's a funny thing, though, that if people were regularly losing $10,000 they couldn't afford in casinos (but enjoying it) then it would be absolutely expected that their friends and relatives would try to talk them out of it. The government would be expected to legislate to prevent this preying on the weak-willed and vulnerable. Is there a fundamental difference?
The cost is not justified..
there is no way it can be..There is nothing wrong with choosing components..not all components are expensive..
You could use Elna Silmic, Obbligato, make your own signal cables..choose solders..over engineer circuits (power rating etc) or over rate components choose resistor types etc..it does not have to cost a lot..
then there is the other "stuff"..
...but you have to make a point of using what (seems) to make a difference to you..
The problem is don't be stupid<<use what you like that you think works for you..You can use carbon resistors why do they have to be gold plated £10.00 each?...we use and prefer old tubes..made in 1960...
Or just build and be happy...use standard parts..
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M. Gregg
there is no way it can be..There is nothing wrong with choosing components..not all components are expensive..
You could use Elna Silmic, Obbligato, make your own signal cables..choose solders..over engineer circuits (power rating etc) or over rate components choose resistor types etc..it does not have to cost a lot..
then there is the other "stuff"..
...but you have to make a point of using what (seems) to make a difference to you..The problem is don't be stupid<<use what you like that you think works for you..You can use carbon resistors why do they have to be gold plated £10.00 each?...we use and prefer old tubes..made in 1960...
Or just build and be happy...use standard parts..
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M. Gregg
so... it's about that in the endalways suspected so.
..tell me something that isn't....Cars , laptops, phones, HIFI, TV's, programs, the internet, it goes on and on..how many of us have only what we need<<we get bored and by a toy..motorbikes, etc..etc..etcCrystals on cables ..er no...$10,000 cables ..er no... £10.00 on a couple of caps...maybe... A few resistors in the right place..maybe
PTFE cable silver coated yes..why because its CSA is smaller for the same current rating..its heat resistant etc
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that's not what I meant.
I meant the part of audio which is not about the sound but just having something to, well, toy with.
I know people with a great passion for music who bought the best system they could afford because they actually needed it to enjoy music best.
but there are types who just need something to do.
talking about motorcycles... I thing many audio guys would actually need a manly hobby like that
I meant the part of audio which is not about the sound but just having something to, well, toy with.
I know people with a great passion for music who bought the best system they could afford because they actually needed it to enjoy music best.
but there are types who just need something to do.
talking about motorcycles... I thing many audio guys would actually need a manly hobby like that
that's not what I meant.
I meant the part of audio which is not about the sound but just having something to, well, toy with.
talking about motorcycles... I thing many audio guys would actually need a manly hobby like that
Well the toy bit is easy..if you can't use a soldering iron..then stick some sorbathane feet under it..
..if you get adventurous buy a cable..The HIFI not the bike engine...
..on the modern ones you can chip them...LMAOThink of the happy hours of using a green felt pen on your CD's....
..what do you do with mp3's.Ah I know change to linux..Regards
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Here is a thought for you..
just for fun...if you change the strings on a musical instrument does it change the sound?..
Why ask the question..well I would think the note "A" would still be the note "A"...etc
Does changing the cap in the tone control on an electric guitar change the sound? I don't mean value just type.
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just for fun...if you change the strings on a musical instrument does it change the sound?..
Why ask the question..well I would think the note "A" would still be the note "A"...etc
Does changing the cap in the tone control on an electric guitar change the sound? I don't mean value just type.
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right effect Wrong cause
My take is not of an electrical change Martin C. observed but a cross sensory one. I.E. the badge was a visual distraction thus having no provable electronic effects on the design but a psychological change that looks real but is not of an electrical nature. It souned better with the badge off because it looked better less visual noise. .
Perhaps,
Its a cost vs rip off thread,,You have to admit it would be interesting to know what the mark up is on a silver OP Tx..and production cost..
Or silver in oil cap.
The cable is another matter<<how complex is the build? Cost to make...thats not taking into account if it works or not..
the test mains cables I made took hours and hours to make..however not more than 6..Hrs..accepting I was using off the shelf cable<<<teflon etc
Look at the cost of silver wire from the jewellers..Ok they are not 99.999% pure..however the suppliers said we can get some made for you if you want it..
Also the wire is not so expensive when its not in a cable from the audio suppliers..(Just the core)
The tooling for an op Tx is going to be the same just a change of wire etc..I would think. Same for a cap..
I must admit I have never seen silver wire for a Tx..enamel coated..Then again I have seen one site that uses silver plated OFC,,they say its not that much different..
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But then that makes any review of audio equipment an exercise in cross-sensory perception based not only on the equipment, but the weather that day, the phase of the moon etc. If the sound is a completely fluid concept that changes when the sun goes in, what is the point of any audio review describing the sound at all?
More than that..
What if he likes a sound that you don't..
Thats why you read a review then go and listen to it yourself..
Same goes for combinations of source, amp, speaker..Or components or cables..
So if you can't get to see it..it depends on how many positive reviews it gets..different people..
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M. Gregg
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If I honestly had to bet on where that would lead, it would be that audio reviewers would suddenly find that there was a lot less to distinguish between equipment. And as regards cables.... there'd be nothing to talk about at all.
Peter Belt is one person I was reminded of. He used to sell 'charged' stickers to attach to equipment, and specially treated pins to attach to your clothing, amongst other crazy items.
His ideas were referred to as 'Beltisim'
One of his ideas was a small square of paper that you placed under one of 4 of your equipment feet. That was always one concept that appealed to me as it effectively changed an equipment support from a wobbly 4 way affair to a tripod.
Maybe that one was a psycho-accoustic effect that appealed to my engineering mind:
His ideas were referred to as 'Beltisim'
One of his ideas was a small square of paper that you placed under one of 4 of your equipment feet. That was always one concept that appealed to me as it effectively changed an equipment support from a wobbly 4 way affair to a tripod.
Maybe that one was a psycho-accoustic effect that appealed to my engineering mind:
Not REALLY off topic but it is damn funny! The same type of con job...it's just where all this really started. Get a pen & paper while James Randi guts the Homeopathic industry.
Look up *James Randi explains Homeopathy" on YT....prepare to be entertained & informed.
_______________________________________________________Rick.........
Look up *James Randi explains Homeopathy" on YT....prepare to be entertained & informed.
_______________________________________________________Rick.........
One thing,
that would show is the most expensive is not always the best..
Looking at differences..well you surly can't believe everything sounds the same?<<how important the differences are depends on the person..
I would think an orchestral player would have a hard time with something that altered the sound of their instrument..(on playback)
There is one thing that makes a difference..and that is if a cable is driven or not...Now you might say so what..well if you have seen the capacitive effect of HV supply systems in industry and how the cable holds the charge..you would not say a cable is not capacitive..
The ability to drive the cable will have an effect on cable effect/type..NB the cable is not a link between two components its a load..
So the rant by the guy about snake oil.."whats the difference with an optical cable and an analogue its all digital"..how much of a load is an optical cable how much capacitance does it have?
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M. Gregg
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YBA uses the concept of 3 point support in their gear. my YBA-designed Audio Refinement is made the same way.
funny thing is that while testing it with a dummy load - I do that with all used equipment - I could hear the music being played by the R-core transformer
but when listening through speakers it sounds good
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