Yeah, that's just one of Many claims in here Patent US20150172795A1
Of course i expect he is trying to make his claims as wide as possible, but still 1Hz ? I'd like to see that acheived @ the same levels, as for eg 40Hz plus in the same box ! Not possible i say.
Apart from that, if you examine the patents images, & look at the actual products, i don't see how even anywhere near 20/25Hz can be reproduced, at even medium levels ?
What do you make of it ?
Of course i expect he is trying to make his claims as wide as possible, but still 1Hz ? I'd like to see that acheived @ the same levels, as for eg 40Hz plus in the same box ! Not possible i say.
Apart from that, if you examine the patents images, & look at the actual products, i don't see how even anywhere near 20/25Hz can be reproduced, at even medium levels ?
What do you make of it ?
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Could you post more pictures? I tried to pull it up on Google's patent website but the images seem broken. Might just be on my end.
Hoffman's iron law still applies, so if the 1hz figure is meaningful (which I doubt, I think it's meaningless), you'd have to make some insane compromises.
After looking at the site, it seems all their products have blurbs chock full of technobabble nonsense, which makes me even less interested in what they've patented.
Hoffman's iron law still applies, so if the 1hz figure is meaningful (which I doubt, I think it's meaningless), you'd have to make some insane compromises.
After looking at the site, it seems all their products have blurbs chock full of technobabble nonsense, which makes me even less interested in what they've patented.
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Hi zettairyouiki,
I went to pat2pdf.org, and type in just the numbers 20150172795, that worked.
The picture in Post #1, and the description in the patent show a BP4 (fourth order bandpass), sealed rear chamber, etc.... Good to know that we can now let go of all those limitations imposed by physics too.
Regards,
I went to pat2pdf.org, and type in just the numbers 20150172795, that worked.
The picture in Post #1, and the description in the patent show a BP4 (fourth order bandpass), sealed rear chamber, etc.... Good to know that we can now let go of all those limitations imposed by physics too.
Regards,
Be interesting to see this simmed 
@ weltersys
LOL. I'm doubting them getting "medium" levels of SPL @ 20/25Hz compared to upper f's. That would be some kind of voodoo etc, if they did !
@ zettairyouiki
Yes, i don't see how they can beat Hoffman's iron law. Did you get the patent from the link that tb46 or GM showed ?
@ tb46
Physical impossibility more like
@ weltersys
LOL. I'm doubting them getting "medium" levels of SPL @ 20/25Hz compared to upper f's. That would be some kind of voodoo etc, if they did !
@ zettairyouiki
Yes, i don't see how they can beat Hoffman's iron law. Did you get the patent from the link that tb46 or GM showed ?
@ tb46
Physical impossibility more like
1hz ???? I'm sorry I thought this was a joke, was this patent filled on April first?
I can believe that the drivers are flapping in the wind at 1hz, but with not output to speak of. Granted we may not be able to hear below 20hz but we can feel down to almost 1hz. I have been lucky enough to have 1 speaker with specs that whet down to 17hz. CDs with information in that range where impressive. But that speaker had a free air of 12.5hz.
Has anyone seen what kind of miracle driver they are using? They must be using the magnets off of an MRI machine to be able to make the cone respond at that frequency. Let me correct myself, looking over the patient I didn't see a +- db range, so I do believe it will do 1 to 850hz just it will sound like crap doing it.
I can believe that the drivers are flapping in the wind at 1hz, but with not output to speak of. Granted we may not be able to hear below 20hz but we can feel down to almost 1hz. I have been lucky enough to have 1 speaker with specs that whet down to 17hz. CDs with information in that range where impressive. But that speaker had a free air of 12.5hz.
Has anyone seen what kind of miracle driver they are using? They must be using the magnets off of an MRI machine to be able to make the cone respond at that frequency. Let me correct myself, looking over the patient I didn't see a +- db range, so I do believe it will do 1 to 850hz just it will sound like crap doing it.
Flare Audio at it again... interesting to see they couldn't fool the Pro audio world so shifted their range to take money from unwitting consumers
https://www.flareaudio.com/pages/zero
"it throws out 3.5kw of sound"
https://www.flareaudio.com/pages/zero
"it throws out 3.5kw of sound"
@ tb46
Thanx, i'll have a tinker
@ jjccoutcher
No, not on their www, but see below
@ bitSmasher
Yeah
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Strange that Flare don't have fuller specs on their www, but there is more on here Sub Bass - Q & SB Series - Flare Audio - Professional Audio - Orbital Sound. Audio and Theatre Equipment Hire and Sales
Also, on the above www, it quotes an industry award & recommondation from people in the industry ? So, are we missing something, & is there more to this tech than we realise ?
There is a www Download for PDF's Product Information Online - Orbital Sound. Audio and Theatre Equipment Hire and Sales but you need an Account to Login to get them !
Thanx, i'll have a tinker
@ jjccoutcher
No, not on their www, but see below
@ bitSmasher
Yeah
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Strange that Flare don't have fuller specs on their www, but there is more on here Sub Bass - Q & SB Series - Flare Audio - Professional Audio - Orbital Sound. Audio and Theatre Equipment Hire and Sales
Also, on the above www, it quotes an industry award & recommondation from people in the industry ? So, are we missing something, & is there more to this tech than we realise ?
There is a www Download for PDF's Product Information Online - Orbital Sound. Audio and Theatre Equipment Hire and Sales but you need an Account to Login to get them !
From a 20k amp, that implies ~17% efficiency.
The Zero is ...remarkable.
It's like they read an article on diffraction, then decided to troll audiophiles by making the worst possible baffle:
Diffraction from baffle edges
The driver-to-driver spacing is also quite a feat. They must have decided to maximise the jolly heck out of that, too.
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