Just wondering if anyone has built a 405-2 clone? If so, I'd very much appreciate receiving a copy of the driver PC board layout.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
You can find pictures of the Quad 405-2, even the PCB, here: http://www.quad405.com
Recommend reading the document on modification done by Bernd Ludwig.
Recommend reading the document on modification done by Bernd Ludwig.
Dear AL2002,
Here you are, schema and PCB, complete article:
http://edl.uw.hu/quad405_1.jpg
http://edl.uw.hu/quad405_2.jpg
http://edl.uw.hu/quad405_3.jpg
In our country many hundred, or even a thousand Quad-405 clone built since 1981, most of them from this article.
Best regards,
Here you are, schema and PCB, complete article:
http://edl.uw.hu/quad405_1.jpg
http://edl.uw.hu/quad405_2.jpg
http://edl.uw.hu/quad405_3.jpg
In our country many hundred, or even a thousand Quad-405 clone built since 1981, most of them from this article.
Best regards,
RogerGustavsson said:You can find pictures of the Quad 405-2, even the PCB, here: http://www.quad405.com
Recommend reading the document on modification done by Bernd Ludwig.
Thanks, I archived the Ludwig article . I am looking for a PC board layout. I did not see it here unless I missed it.
Re: not a -2
Thanks for the link. Alas, no PCB layouts here.
tomtt said:
Thanks for the link. Alas, no PCB layouts here.
edl said:Dear AL2002,
Here you are, schema and PCB, complete article:
http://edl.uw.hu/quad405_1.jpg
http://edl.uw.hu/quad405_2.jpg
http://edl.uw.hu/quad405_3.jpg
In our country many hundred, or even a thousand Quad-405 clone built since 1981, most of them from this article.
Best regards,
What about my post, AL2002? There is a PCB layout there...
edl said:Dear AL2002,
Here you are, schema and PCB, complete article:
http://edl.uw.hu/quad405_1.jpg
http://edl.uw.hu/quad405_2.jpg
http://edl.uw.hu/quad405_3.jpg
In our country many hundred, or even a thousand Quad-405 clone built since 1981, most of them from this article.
Best regards,
Very helpful. Thanks very much.
Were there any corrections to the original article?
edl said:
What about my post, AL2002? There is a PCB layout there...
Great stuff, read it. Thanks again.
Were there any corrections to the original article?
Yeah, this is the "hungarian version".
One more:
http://skory.gylcomp.hu/quad405/quad405.html
PSpice simulation:
http://cyberspace.mht.bme.hu/~atomamp/Quad405.PDF
Newest version:
http://www.tar.hu/kapcsrajzok/hfver/Urban_Quad.pdf
(PCB included!)
Regards,
edl said:
Yeah, this is the "hungarian version".
One more:
http://skory.gylcomp.hu/quad405/quad405.html
PSpice simulation:
http://cyberspace.mht.bme.hu/~atomamp/Quad405.PDF
Newest version:
http://www.tar.hu/kapcsrajzok/hfver/Urban_Quad.pdf
(PCB included!)
Regards,
Great stuff edl! Will take me some time to digest all this info.
Just curious, have you built any of these?
I built few dozen of them more than twenty years ago according to the article from Hungarian magazine. Layout of PCB was exactly like this: Thttp://edl.uw.hu/quad405_2.jpg The most critical part was to make inductors according to recommendations from the article. If components are ok it works without any problems.
Allexx said:I built few dozen of them more than twenty years ago according to the article from Hungarian magazine. Layout of PCB was exactly like this: Thttp://edl.uw.hu/quad405_2.jpg The most critical part was to make inductors according to recommendations from the article. If components are ok it works without any problems.
Glad to hear that the design works well.
So far, we have not seen any clones of the 405-2 in this thread. The hungarian 405's are no clones but seems to be a bit different from the original 405 (-1). Here are some pictures of Quad:
http://quad405.com/modsquad1.jpg
http://quad405.com/modsquad2.jpg
405-2:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1644/1858/1600/DSC_0003.2.jpg
405 (-1):
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1644/1858/1600/After_0001.jpg
I would like to see new PCBs with a Keith Snook frontend (an the new posistion for C8) and a Bernd Ludwig output (4 output transistors) or even an Audio Linear output (6 output transistors).
http://quad405.com/modsquad1.jpg
http://quad405.com/modsquad2.jpg
405-2:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1644/1858/1600/DSC_0003.2.jpg
405 (-1):
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1644/1858/1600/After_0001.jpg
I would like to see new PCBs with a Keith Snook frontend (an the new posistion for C8) and a Bernd Ludwig output (4 output transistors) or even an Audio Linear output (6 output transistors).
What is better in a hot-rodded/cloned 405-2 compared to a hot-rodded/cloned 306/606/707/909?
Why not clone a 909 instead, it's better in every aspect or is it not or isn't it as fun?

Why not clone a 909 instead, it's better in every aspect or is it not or isn't it as fun?

I spent ages reading up on quads when i did my 405-2 clone and by the time i had finished my 405 clone i wished i had gone and cloned a 707 which is to my knowledge identical to the 909.
The main difference between the 405-2 and the 606,707,909 is the triple output transistor pairs which makes a big improvement on low impedance speaker performance. And the fact that they took the op amp out of the signal path in the 606 onwards which most people consider is a large improvement in sound.
Plus the 707 can do about 140watts into 8 ohm as oppose to the 100 watts the 405-2 can do. And even the hotrodded 405-2 even though it has large improvements probably doesnt sound quite as good as a stock 707 design.
PS, if you do go for one of these amps be careful on the layout of the boards i had nasty oscillation due to my bad layouts.
Regards
Craig
The main difference between the 405-2 and the 606,707,909 is the triple output transistor pairs which makes a big improvement on low impedance speaker performance. And the fact that they took the op amp out of the signal path in the 606 onwards which most people consider is a large improvement in sound.
Plus the 707 can do about 140watts into 8 ohm as oppose to the 100 watts the 405-2 can do. And even the hotrodded 405-2 even though it has large improvements probably doesnt sound quite as good as a stock 707 design.
PS, if you do go for one of these amps be careful on the layout of the boards i had nasty oscillation due to my bad layouts.
Regards
Craig
Zombie said:What is better in a hot-rodded/cloned 405-2 compared to a hot-rodded/cloned 306/606/707/909?
I needed 80-100 W, max, so the 405 is the one I thought of. A 606 clone with lower voltage rails would be fine, too. As it is, 405 board layouts are hard enough to find, I expect info to clone the newer models would be that much harder to find.
IIRC the 707 was not a current dumping design, was it?
Why not clone a 909 instead, it's better in every aspect or is it not or isn't it as fun?
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See above.
In Quad 405, the base(s) of output transistors are tied together. In Quad 606, the base of upper and lower output transistors are distanced by 1 diode drop. How significant is this, especially in sonics?
How important the "precise" inductor value is? If the DIY inductor is missing the exact value, what could happened?
How important the "precise" inductor value is? If the DIY inductor is missing the exact value, what could happened?
Zombie said:306, 606, 707, 909 are CD, 99 and 77 are not
Thanks for clarifying this. I've found a 707 schematic, but nothing on the 909.
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