Go Back   Home > Forums > >
Home Forums Rules Articles diyAudio Store Blogs Gallery Wiki Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Planars & Exotics ESL's, planars, and alternative technologies

Vertical Corugated tweeters
Vertical Corugated tweeters
Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11th April 2020, 08:13 PM   #1
WrineX is offline WrineX  Netherlands
diyAudio Member
 
WrineX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Den Haag
Default Vertical Corugated tweeters

Here are 2 videos about me making a weird tweeter i had in mind for quite some time. its a live stream... so i would 100000 percent understand if you would not watch all of it haha its so long , since it is real time

VIdeo 1 live
YouTube
Video 2 live
YouTube

but its is a sort of planar/ribbon it combines the 2 things i like most ribbon for low resonance and easy crossover, and planar magnetic (normal one ) in terms of magnet layout. and method of being able to create some really weird coils and still have a rather OK output without trannie and small height to have semi ok dispersion.


Hunting down weirdness in my tweeters. i am rather happy so far but when i put it in Push pull i get a weird dip (it was also present in single ended but harder to notice)


Biggest problem was a wiggle at 10Khz when i used it in push pull and also some weird dip at 4 khz in both. a nice thing is this tweeter has a resonance of around 100 hz or something so very easy to crossover


All measurements are gated @ 3ms and use 1/12dB smoothing

Pic 1 Push pull vs single ended in the mini monitor baffle.

you can see the weird dip clearly, a dip at 4 khz and a huge swing at 11Khz

Red Push pull
Green Single ended

Pic 2 Push pull vs push pull without any magnets on the front, i adjusted the volume. to see whats going on. so apparently the magnets is not creating this.

Red with magnets
Green Without

Pic 3 I removed the tweeter and used it free air.

push pull vs single ended

Purple Push Pull
Red Single ended

Pic 4 tweeter still out of the baffle , this time the front (that does not have a frame to hold the tweeter) vs the back

Red Front
Green Rear

Pic 5 i wondered what the frame thickness did so i added the frame that is there when using it in push pull and made it 4 mm thicker then it usualy is.

Red default 4 mm frame
Purple with an extra thick 8 mmm frame (no magnets in the front just the frame)

Pic 6 I still am not sure if it is damping or the width of the cut out need to make a new frame for it, but here i added felt and the red marked spots.

Pic 7 The result with felt in single ended without baffle

Red without felt
Purple with felt

Pic 8 Now its time to put the single ended in the baffle and see what we gained.

Light green single ended in baffle
Dark green with felt mod in baffle.

That looks promising to me. almost as flat as i could wish for. question still remains is the damping needed there or should it make the cutout of the frame as wide as the driven area. ? adding felt makes it possible to get lower resonance, making the cutout in this case smaller (since it cant be wider then the magnets without creating the same problem) might result in the same and is easier to produce. less parts less work etc etc. well i guess i need to try both. so far felt DOES makes it allot smoother almost perfect.

Pic 9 just the tweeter in push pull on a test baffle, measurements taken in this post where my mini monitors baffle

its amazing how the plot can change with some minor crap

Last edited by WrineX; 11th April 2020 at 08:20 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 18th April 2020, 01:58 AM   #2
cubby01 is offline cubby01  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Very interesting. Tbh, I skipped bits here and there but only because I wanted to see more quicker.
__________________
just the faqs mam
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Vertical Corugated tweetersHide this!Advertise here!
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What was wrong with corugated paper surrounds? krakatoa Full Range 54 8th March 2020 07:10 PM
Pairing Ribbon Tweeters Vertical + Horizontal KING DRANZER Multi-Way 50 31st January 2020 06:41 PM
Vertical Bi-amp rackabajsarn Multi-Way 7 29th November 2016 11:11 AM
Vertical turntable ANALOGIST Analogue Source 10 24th October 2011 07:42 PM
2 tweeters for vertical dispersion? Ang Planars & Exotics 2 19th April 2007 04:10 AM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 03:15 PM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Resources saved on this page: MySQL 15.00%
vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright ©1999-2020 diyAudio
Wiki