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Old 9th November 2017, 08:30 PM   #11
jacques54 is offline jacques54  Europe
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Count me in as well. Sent PM and added a line in the spreadsheet.

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Old 9th November 2017, 09:19 PM   #12
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I heard these AR10pi speakers driven by a couple of my fathers Marantz amps (the 80s models, don't remember which) and lately by a LM1875 chipamp (not bad). Compared to those My_Ref FE is distinctly better. Music appears well balanced and articulated. That is, instruments are not obscured one by the other. Merely by refocusing attention one can distinguish the particular line. The challenging string instruments are very authentic. I look forward to examine the sound of egyptian horns in the Aida with this amplifier. Never heard them properly reproduced.
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I must say it is impressive to say the least! The sound is so natural, the instruments sound absolutely real. Ofcourse after some time the brain will burn in and I'll see possibilities for improvement (at the moment it is just industrial BOM), but now I am absolutely dazzled by the result! And it was so simple to get there. But that is because someone has produced this simplicity for us with his natural talent and hours and hours of work
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this amp is PURE MAGIC
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Dario, could you please add this to the amp's description:
It is the moment then music stops being just a record and becomes an experience !
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So what have I learned from these adventures? I can honestly say I feel there is no such thing as "The Best Power Amplifier". There are just too many components, personal preferences and varying budgets for such a thing to exist - IMHO. I have come to respect and appreciate what the Class A designs offer and will most likely keep one of the builds. I can also say that Dario's FE remains my favorite and most enjoyable. I think Ivan summed it up the best...."this amp is PURE MAGIC". It appears some new developments like Roender's FC-100 prototype are seeking similar response/performance, but I've seen nothing close to the simplicity of the single board, low temp, flexible installation/configuration high quality solution provided by the FEs.
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OMG!!!

This amp is totally fantastic!! Kind of remind me of a transistor Class A amplifier but with the spaciality of a Single Ended Tube amplifier. Really impressive!!!

I find that in transparency, my Goldmund wins but there's really nothing to hate of that My_Ref FE. It is in my list of preferred amps. Imaging is where I find it extremely pleasing, the soundstage is really deep. In Miles Davis - Kind of Blue on So What track, you can really feel the distances of the instrument, the double-bass is in the back of the scene and you can really feel the room. I find this is the harder part to reproduce. Many amplifiers will have a wide soundstage but the depth is not always well defined this is where this amplifier shines. There's also a lot of air between the instrument and separation is very good. Heavy passages don't come all compressed. Also the reproduction of timbres is right on!

As you can tell, I'm really excited about this amplifier.
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Iíve not heard any of the My Ref before so it was interesting to hear the sound open up from switch on and boy did it do that.
To My ears the most obvious sonic quality is the Midrange which is just so open and makes for a really deep and wide soundstage. Lots of detail and really smooth in a way that Iíve only heard SE DHT triodes manage previously. Vocals are particularly impressive sounding clean, clear and natural. Top and bottom do a great job of underpinning the music with bass deep and tight but not overblown.
Treble is also sweet and clear.
Overall the sound has punch and dynamics a plenty.
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Itís been a few days now since I completed my build in which time Iíve managed to clock up about 24hours of burn in.
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So a quick progress report.
Well all sounding pretty good this end with the soundstage depth growing quite noticeably. Iíve been really impressed with the pin sharp imaging which makes it so easy to identify the location of instruments and vocals etc. the top and bottom seem to be filling out very nicely with bass noticeably fuller without losing definition and tunefulness.
PRAT is also first rate and the amp stays musical even when pushed hard. It also unsurprisingly runs cool on those big heat sinks. This amp seems to be a really good match for my PMC transmission lines and the combination makes for a clean dynamic sound.
So Iíve gone from being impressed to gobsmacked.
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I finished the MyRef FE about 4 months ago and all I can say is that it's a REAL reference amplifier. I compared it with a few expensive hi-end power amps (both linear and class d) and to my ears it plays definitely in the same league.
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I was honestly blown away. Simply stunning sound reproduction. The big Pass style amps I've built are truly impressive with a large super clean stage that give no hint of distortion or lack of ability to handle anything sent in their direction. Excellent sound.

But --- if you want to reach over and feel the vibrations on the crash cymbal, hear the air moving through Miles Davis's trumpet, point to the chair the second alto sax is sitting in and feel the couch bounce on the drum fills .......

I haven't heard the full width and most significantly - depth of stage the FEs produce from any other setup.
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Anyway the FE's are brilliant amplifiers, the best I've ever heard and I fully encourage anyone to build them, the sound quality is so good that it's well worth getting them right.
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I am extremely pleased at the conclusion of the overall performance of this amp that doing nothing but amaze me all the time. My reference amp has always been my homebuilt OTL in Circlotron configuration (two mono blocks, with 4 6C33C). The Fremen looks good in almost anything compared to him. The most obvious attribute is its neutrality and in my opinion this is a huge honor.
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Old 9th November 2017, 09:50 PM   #13
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I really love how this amp sounds. Had some worries about the base sounding a little bit muddy, but after maybe 25-30 hours of break in the sound signature changed a lot. Now it is very well defined and balanced. Mids are very detailed, good separation, highs are awesome - very clear and natural sounding without being bright.
Altogether really an amazing sounding amp. Can't stop singing along with my favourite songs now *lol*
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The first big difference i noticed was the soundstage. It really made it sound like the music was not coming from the speakers anymore. Very good separation and placement. Also, it definitely has this "tube-touch" not as extreme as with a normal tube amp, but to get an idea what it sounds like a very good picture. The voices now sound a lot more realistic to me. Now i sometimes hear a noise and only afterwarsd realize it was from the recorded music/movie *ggg* In my eyes a really worthwhile build with incredible bang for buck
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1st impression is that it sounds fast and tight, with clear separation of instruments. Excellent harmonic structure with brass etc.
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Guys... I love this amp.
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How does one put it in words? Just so musical.. Silky.. Tonally correct... Separation of each instrument. When playing loud it still holds everything together.. I can't wait to listen to music
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Does everything right in my book.. Worth every cent. Too afraid to put it in my main system... I'm afraid it will beat my valve amp.
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I thought I had a very good amp. And I did, it was way better than the one before that (rotel RA07)

But this one. Another league. Better control of the bass and more detail.

My wife and I were listening to Arcason the other night(from Candido - the Master). Control of the bass and detail in the bass is better than my tube amp. Somebody said he liked the 'thereness' of the musicians, I completely agree! Razor sharp imaging, not too big, just right. As if they are in the room. Not warm, surely not analytical. You feel the enthousiasm of the musicians, at a certain point someone on the left is really enjoying the moment, and starts laughing/humming. You just 'see' him playing, laughing, enjoying. We both smiled. Listened to that song a few times, that never happened...

And that's most important, at least for me. Not the lowest THD+N or some other statistic/measurement. So a big thanks to Dario for this great sounding amp! I love that I can have a sound quality at home I can't​ afford if I should have to buy it from the store! You and all the FremenEdition pioneers made that possible.
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Old 10th November 2017, 02:17 AM   #14
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Wow! I can see that the extra effort put into this topology has really paid off. It must sound special indeed.

Looking back at some of the earlier threads I am impressed by all of the critical listening used to choose every single component on the board. I have personally heard huge differences with my own cap rolling experiments, so I appreciate this uncommon attention to detail.
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Old 10th November 2017, 07:10 AM   #15
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Hello Dario,
I would like 2 kits.
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Old 10th November 2017, 08:56 AM   #16
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Old 10th November 2017, 01:06 PM   #17
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I would like one kit please. Details added and pm sent.

Thanks for organising this.

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Old 12th November 2017, 03:40 PM   #18
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Have signed up for 1 kit. Sent PM and added a line in the spreadsheet.

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Old 12th November 2017, 04:09 PM   #19
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Welcome on-board Robert and Morten.

12 confirmed kits so far, so we're in made in China zone, 8 more kits to the made in Italy one.
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Old 14th November 2017, 09:19 PM   #20
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