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Old 19th October 2016, 01:42 PM   #351
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I think there should be a dedicated section for cable/connector discussions with this thread at the top as a sticky. Non believers can then avoid it and all the endless arguments it contains.
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Old 13th December 2017, 04:41 PM   #352
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Fancy Interconnects?  How about a potato, or even mud?
I saw this, and thought of..................

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Old 13th December 2017, 06:14 PM   #353
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They should have tried using a banana.
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Old 13th December 2017, 06:26 PM   #354
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Fancy Interconnects?  How about a potato, or even mud?
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Old 13th December 2017, 07:44 PM   #355
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Oh I have already found a way. Rain or moisture detector. Or unauthorized data transmission where metal wires are not available / not allowed. Maybe develop an antenna out of it too?

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Old 13th December 2017, 07:45 PM   #356
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Old 2nd September 2018, 10:57 PM   #357
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Fancy Interconnects?  How about a potato, or even mud?
The test was a lot of fun. Not too many people were willing to take the test or post the results.
Here is a summary of the first round:
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A= potato left, banana right
B= original file
C= loop with good quality copper cable (Canare GS-6)
D= mud (bucket of mud on left, trough of mud on right)
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In the end I can't reliably tell any difference between any of the tracks
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I believe A is the original. Maybe C.
No, I'm staying with A.
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Really quickly ran them through my laptop speakers, expecting to hear something different immediately.
I honestly couldn't tell
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Initial impressions... and there's not much in it so at the risk of making a total plonker of myself,

A) The best with the most consistent imaging and best "hf" detail. Sharply focused image.

B) Generally excellent, with good timbre but image seemed to be biased to the left (very very slightly).

C) This was the one I couldn't pin down. Something about the vocals and the vocal image varying "in height" yet a good overall image.

D) This was the worst with almost a "forced" quality, a poor image and an underlying weird kind of distortion (a coarseness) to the vocals.
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...using Sennheiser HD598 headphones via a unity gain headphone amp, I'm surprised I could hear much difference at all. But version A was clearly better.
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Listening through Sony MDR-1R on a laptop.
If you held a gun to my head I'd say A and D were a little dull, but the difference is so minor it could be psychological
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Nice set of files, Pano ... pretty obvious, C is the original - on a quick listen with Audacity, on the PC speakers. All the others are degraded to some degree, interesting how much the straight DA/AD loop damaged the sound so much ...
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A - copper
B - mud
D - food
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I'd bet C is the conversion loop, B is the original.
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Mooly
A: Best
B: Excellent
C: Hard to pin down
D: Worst

Dirkwright
A: Best (original)

fas42
A: copper
B: mud
C: original
D: food

nanoo
B: original
C: copper

Scott17
A: original

wintermute
can't tell the difference
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Preliminary listen... can't tell any difference (yet) except for D having those glitches where it cuts out briefly. I'm guessing potato/banana on that.
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Pano, great idea, great fun, first couple of runs on my computer system did not reveal any obvious differences.
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I'm sure you can get a difference in DiffMaker (the flac files should convert easily), the more interesting question is whether or not you can actually hear a difference. After all, if there's night and day audible differences between copper and silver or PVC and Teflon, you'd think that banana/potato vs copper or mud ought to be blatantly evident.
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Well. I'm fooled. If I had to call it, I'd say D was the original, but I strongly suspect that is just me kidding myself.
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I could convince myself that any one of those are the originals.
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Today, first think after waking up, before coffee, was listening to the flac files through AKG240 headphones.
Initially I said A,D,C,B in terms of presence.
After the second listening, I wasnít sure for the order of difference.
Then I listened to them many times in random order. I canít say there is a difference, let alone any order.
The more I listen to them, the more I canít tell one from the other (except through the glitch on D)
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A - CD
B - mud
C - potato
D - copper
A few did a pretty good job, but no one said it was glaringly obvious. Molly is usually good at these tests.
Considering the mediums used and all the digital fixing I had to do to some of the files, the small differences were surprising.

I will soon reboot this test with a cleaner signal flow that doesn't introduce so much noise. The noise was a big give away in the second round. Coffee, Coke and wine do not make good cables. Mud and vegetables, not too bad.
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Old 3rd September 2018, 09:23 AM   #358
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It is a pity that almost everyone who tried has such a poor system (or poor ears) that they could not hear much difference. 8-)
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Old 3rd September 2018, 01:31 PM   #359
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Fancy Interconnects?  How about a potato, or even mud?
Yes. And the even bigger disappointment is that with over 33,000 thread views so few actually took the test and posted results.

Perhaps the test proves that people greatly prefer to talk about cable differences rather than work to find them.
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