These speakers are developing a large cult following. A 10" full ranger with a super tweeter. Anyone seen, heard or tried to develop their own DIY pair?
The main driver looks like a Fertin but i can't verify this i can't find any info about Fertin online. As for the super tweeter i have no idea.
I would love to have a go at making a pair myself and would appreciate any help that this forum might be able to provide an how to get started.
Cheers
The main driver looks like a Fertin but i can't verify this i can't find any info about Fertin online. As for the super tweeter i have no idea.
I would love to have a go at making a pair myself and would appreciate any help that this forum might be able to provide an how to get started.
Cheers
see here
http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=hug&m=109518
I have never heard them, but they look so good.
I think they use a low q driver in a small straight t-line mass loaded via base and the floor.
beaming would be a bit of a problem with the 10" driver
Regards Philip
http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=hug&m=109518
I have never heard them, but they look so good.
I think they use a low q driver in a small straight t-line mass loaded via base and the floor.
beaming would be a bit of a problem with the 10" driver
Regards Philip
Their specifications
They're not accurate: look at the specs on their site. 35Hz @ 101dB from a 10" in a modest TL.... stinks to high heaven. MAYBE corner loaded.... IF they're lucky. In a 'normal' setup, it takes a refridgerator sized speaker to achieve that.
Now, they may sound great (all indications are that they do, and I'm fond of fullrange+assisted and/or wideband high efficiency mids), but they're fulla hooey.
I just love phonies
:bs:
They're not accurate: look at the specs on their site. 35Hz @ 101dB from a 10" in a modest TL.... stinks to high heaven. MAYBE corner loaded.... IF they're lucky. In a 'normal' setup, it takes a refridgerator sized speaker to achieve that.
Now, they may sound great (all indications are that they do, and I'm fond of fullrange+assisted and/or wideband high efficiency mids), but they're fulla hooey.
I just love phonies
:bs:
In my simulations with MJK`s ML-TQWT sheet the unmodified Eminence and other medium-Q drivers don`t work. I get better results with low Q like Ciare PH250 (requires supertweeter) or Audio Nirvana Super 10 (no supertweeter required).
i read the audio asylum thread nothing definitve but people appeared generally under whelmed by their efforts.
Badman or el'Ol might you sugegsta simialr project (full range woofer with super tweeter assistance) that has had better results.
I built a pair of Jordan Tl's a while back and they are still my reference but i want to try something else...
Badman or el'Ol might you sugegsta simialr project (full range woofer with super tweeter assistance) that has had better results.
I built a pair of Jordan Tl's a while back and they are still my reference but i want to try something else...
My own efforts are kind of esoteric: I have a pair of Rethm "The Second" Cabinets, using Fostex FF225k instead of lowthers, and heil AMT 1s as supertweeters. Active XO at 6500Hz, first order (still experimenting) A little more info here.
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The Hammer Dynamics seems to have quite the following, and certainly at $650 is very very reasonable.
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The Hammer Dynamics seems to have quite the following, and certainly at $650 is very very reasonable.
I am currently very happy with the Ciare HX201 in a reflector-less radial setup (25x50x100cm TQWT) I could recommend if your listening room is not too high, but I think a druid clone is not impossible.
Apart from the two drivers I mentioned I could also recommend the 12" Fertin, simu looks fine. The 12" alnico supravox seems to have too high Vas.
Apart from the two drivers I mentioned I could also recommend the 12" Fertin, simu looks fine. The 12" alnico supravox seems to have too high Vas.
neil_kaye said:
Measurements at 0, 15, and 30 degrees from sound stage magazine.
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with the rest here
http://http://www.soundstagemagazine.com/measurements/zucable_druid/
I'm curious how that would sound....
Hey badman,
Why the Fostex 225k over the Lowther? Also, have you tried any other Fostex drivers in the Rethm cabs?
Why the Fostex 225k over the Lowther? Also, have you tried any other Fostex drivers in the Rethm cabs?
Well, those were the stands I had for the heils. I made some slick stands, they're now OVER the rethms (gives them lots of clearance, important since they're bipole tweeters).
No, I haven't tried any other fostex in the cabs, I'm not really inclined to either- the FF225k has a VERY smooth response, a very strong motor, and appropriate dispersion, even at 6500, to match the heils in terms of power response.
Oh and it sounds VERY good 😀
No, I haven't tried any other fostex in the cabs, I'm not really inclined to either- the FF225k has a VERY smooth response, a very strong motor, and appropriate dispersion, even at 6500, to match the heils in terms of power response.
Oh and it sounds VERY good 😀
Good to hear that FR mesurements on that 8" Fostex can be trusted
And you have no problem the very low Xmax and Qt ?
And you have no problem the very low Xmax and Qt ?
Yeah, no problems, the lowther the cabinet is designed for is pretty low Qts, and the xmax is a nonissue, I don't listen all that loud and bass excursions are controlled by the backhorn/acoustic labyrinth/thingamagig 🙂
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