Hi all
I never build something for digital, so I don't know much about it.
I only read some topics here about dacs, and if I have correctly understood, a basical dac needs:
an optical reciever, a decoder, a dac, and a I/V stage
but I think this is for spdif, how is it for I2S (I mean something like a cdpro2), and I heard that I2S is the best way to go.
Can you also tell me wich chips are good?
thanks a lot
Alex
I never build something for digital, so I don't know much about it.
I only read some topics here about dacs, and if I have correctly understood, a basical dac needs:
an optical reciever, a decoder, a dac, and a I/V stage
but I think this is for spdif, how is it for I2S (I mean something like a cdpro2), and I heard that I2S is the best way to go.
Can you also tell me wich chips are good?
thanks a lot
Alex
Philips chips accept I2S directly. All you need is a DAC chip and output stage. Here are some links:
http://home.student.utwente.nl/f.s.bouwman/audio/nonoz.html
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5798&highlight=non+oversampling+dac
If you want to go with oversampling DF1704 accepts I2S directly as well. In all those cases you simply are not using the receiver.
http://home.student.utwente.nl/f.s.bouwman/audio/nonoz.html
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5798&highlight=non+oversampling+dac
If you want to go with oversampling DF1704 accepts I2S directly as well. In all those cases you simply are not using the receiver.
So, with no oversampling-> I2S directly to a PCM1704 (that's an exemple)Peter Daniel said:Philips chips accept I2S directly. All you need is a DAC chip and output stage. Here are some links:
http://home.student.utwente.nl/f.s.bouwman/audio/nonoz.html
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5798&highlight=non+oversampling+dac
If you want to go with oversampling DF1704 accepts I2S directly as well. In all those cases you simply are not using the receiver.
, then to an I/V
with oversampling-> I2S-> DS1704->PCM1704->I/V
No brickwall filter or something like this? (how does such a filter work?)
thanks Peter 😉
Bricolo said:
So, with no oversampling-> I2S directly to a PCM1704 (that's an exemple)
, then to an I/V
with oversampling-> I2S-> DS1704->PCM1704->I/V
No brickwall filter or something like this? (how does such a filter work?)
thanks Peter 😉
PCM1704 doesn't accept I2S format. You have to either use DF1704 (oversampling) or a sort of logic to make it compatible (non-oversampling).
okay
what are you using in your player (the cd pro 2 based one)? are you using the AD1865 with a tweak to use I2S?
what are you using in your player (the cd pro 2 based one)? are you using the AD1865 with a tweak to use I2S?
I'm using digital out from a player and that goes to outboard DAC with CS8420 receiver, DF1704 and 4 x PCM1704K. Didn't have a chance to try I2S yet. It sounds pretty good as it's now, that's why no rush to change things.
I2S
Would I need any special attention to plugs or cable if I used an external DAC? (Feeding it I2S).
And if it were that easy/simple...why are manufacturers wasting money on the extra circuit for SPDIF...?
Arne K
Would I need any special attention to plugs or cable if I used an external DAC? (Feeding it I2S).
And if it were that easy/simple...why are manufacturers wasting money on the extra circuit for SPDIF...?
Arne K
I am not expert in that regard, but it's my understanding that I2S connection is limited to a certain safe length only, within a player itself. If the cable is longer you might need special sending and receiving circuits, like featured on Sonic Frontiers DAC, and that is more complex and expensive than SPDIF.
I thaugth there were a catch...
I actually tried to get hold of the SF - I2S option, when I had the SFT-1 Drive...
Time for a group-project for a universal I2S Tx/Rx..?
Arne K
I actually tried to get hold of the SF - I2S option, when I had the SFT-1 Drive...
Time for a group-project for a universal I2S Tx/Rx..?
Arne K
It is better to built one box player, and if the box is not big enough, make power supply separate.
I2S transmitter systems have been discussed on diyaudio.com many times. Use the search engine to find them. The most popular design ideas use LVDS or PECL chipsets and twinaxial cabling.
sorry of topic but...
Peter do you have any PCB extra of the DAC to sell ???
It has balanced outputs...right ?!?
Thanks
Josip
I'm using digital out from a player and that goes to outboard DAC with CS8420 receiver, DF1704 and 4 x PCM1704K
Peter do you have any PCB extra of the DAC to sell ???
It has balanced outputs...right ?!?
Thanks
Josip
a dac with i2s input is probably the easiest to build. tried it here.
http://diyparadise.com/rm20dac.html
DonJuan
http://diyparadise.com/rm20dac.html
DonJuan
joke said:sorry of topic but...
Peter do you have any PCB extra of the DAC to sell ???
It has balanced outputs...right ?!?
Thanks
Josip
It has only single ended out. I bought the board from David Broadhurst. I've heard that he was hard to get in contact recantly.
Peter Daniel said:
It has only single ended out. I bought the board from David Broadhurst. I've heard that he was hard to get in contact recantly.
so you use 2 paralleled PCM1704 per channel?
why did you choose parallelling and not differential outputs?
I'm back 😎
Just one more question: which cd mechanism have I2S output? Only the philips mechanisms or other ones too?
Just one more question: which cd mechanism have I2S output? Only the philips mechanisms or other ones too?
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