Hi everyone, I’ve been lurking on these forums for a long time now and its about time I started posting I think. Just been trying to learn as much as I can from all the conversations here, there is just so much info!
I have done some searches on these forums and on the net and haven’t been able to find anyone who has tried to use the Canare DA206 AES/EBU cable as analogue interconnects. I don’t know too much about electronics but I’m learning . What im hoping is for some help from far more experienced people than I am.
I was looking at using the DA206 cable as an interconnect but then when I went to buy it from the wholesaler they put me onto the Canare GS-6 cable which has actually been VERY good! But I cant help thinking that the DA206 will be a very good cable and when I came across the OYAIDE PA-02 I started thinking again. The specs for the two cables seem VERY similar, but the price difference is huge with the PA-02 going for around AUD35 a meter and the DA206 going for around AUD5.50, specifications.
The main ones I noticed were similar were the Impedance (PA-02 = 120Ω / DA206 = 110Ω) and that they both have a very low capacitance. How important are these factors when considering a new cable?
Also are there any other cables I should consider in the $5-10 a meter range?
Ill be using Eichmann copper bullet plugs, they seem to be the best for my price range at the moment.
Any advice would be great!
Thanks
Richard
DA206 PA-02
I have done some searches on these forums and on the net and haven’t been able to find anyone who has tried to use the Canare DA206 AES/EBU cable as analogue interconnects. I don’t know too much about electronics but I’m learning . What im hoping is for some help from far more experienced people than I am.
I was looking at using the DA206 cable as an interconnect but then when I went to buy it from the wholesaler they put me onto the Canare GS-6 cable which has actually been VERY good! But I cant help thinking that the DA206 will be a very good cable and when I came across the OYAIDE PA-02 I started thinking again. The specs for the two cables seem VERY similar, but the price difference is huge with the PA-02 going for around AUD35 a meter and the DA206 going for around AUD5.50, specifications.
The main ones I noticed were similar were the Impedance (PA-02 = 120Ω / DA206 = 110Ω) and that they both have a very low capacitance. How important are these factors when considering a new cable?
Also are there any other cables I should consider in the $5-10 a meter range?
Ill be using Eichmann copper bullet plugs, they seem to be the best for my price range at the moment.
Any advice would be great!
Thanks
Richard
DA206 PA-02
You do voodoo?
There are two ways to approach this problem. You could hand over lots of money to cable salesmen for bits of overpriced wire, or you could learn about electronics etc and do something that will make a real improvement.
An analogue signal will travel perfectly well down a digital cable. All that ought to be different about a digital cable is that it should have a characteristic impedance of 110 Ohms for professional balanced digital audio (AES/EBU) or 75 Ohms for domestic unbalanced digital audio (S/PDIF). I've never measured the characteristic impedance of a phono plug, but given the way most are connected, I'd be very surprised if it's 75 Ohms. In that respect, they're all as dreadful as one another.
Try reading some electronics books and learning how all this stuff works. In the end, you will find this far more rewarding.
There are two ways to approach this problem. You could hand over lots of money to cable salesmen for bits of overpriced wire, or you could learn about electronics etc and do something that will make a real improvement.
An analogue signal will travel perfectly well down a digital cable. All that ought to be different about a digital cable is that it should have a characteristic impedance of 110 Ohms for professional balanced digital audio (AES/EBU) or 75 Ohms for domestic unbalanced digital audio (S/PDIF). I've never measured the characteristic impedance of a phono plug, but given the way most are connected, I'd be very surprised if it's 75 Ohms. In that respect, they're all as dreadful as one another.
Try reading some electronics books and learning how all this stuff works. In the end, you will find this far more rewarding.
Yeah i really want to, i need to learn more because most of this stuff is over my head. What books would you recomend for a beginner?
Well, there are lots of books... To answer your current problem, the "Digital Interface Handbook" is very good and doesn't get too mathematical.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Digital-Int...1128744?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186309030&sr=1-3
After that, you're going to want to learn some fundamental electronics:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-I...9991838?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186309173&sr=1-1
There are lots of books on fundamental electronics, but most are designed for university courses and are heavy on maths but short on explanations. Horowitz & Hill is the standard university book, but you're probably not ready for that yet.
None of the engineering books will mention the "sound" of cables, and if they do, they will do so disparagingly. When you know more about electronics, you will see why. When you know even more about electronics, you will realise there could be something in it, but not what the cable manufacturers or reviewers claim. When you know even more than that, you will say, "But for the price of that cable, I could make some real improvements to the circuit design that definitely will sound better." By this time, your house will be awash with books and test gear. Mine is.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Digital-Int...1128744?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186309030&sr=1-3
After that, you're going to want to learn some fundamental electronics:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-I...9991838?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186309173&sr=1-1
There are lots of books on fundamental electronics, but most are designed for university courses and are heavy on maths but short on explanations. Horowitz & Hill is the standard university book, but you're probably not ready for that yet.
None of the engineering books will mention the "sound" of cables, and if they do, they will do so disparagingly. When you know more about electronics, you will see why. When you know even more about electronics, you will realise there could be something in it, but not what the cable manufacturers or reviewers claim. When you know even more than that, you will say, "But for the price of that cable, I could make some real improvements to the circuit design that definitely will sound better." By this time, your house will be awash with books and test gear. Mine is.
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