Doing a cursory search of mine and others posts, the quest for the ideal dipole tweeter seems to raise its head every couple of years. It's been a few years since I last asked so why break with tradition?
I'm pretty happy with my main system, a 4 way active system with BG Neo3, Neo 10, Peerless SLS10 (all dipole) in a simple tapered baffle crossing to a pair of Rythmik subs in a very big room.
But for domestic reasons I'm trying to get sound as good or better in the family room, although I don't need as much volume.
I'm doing a shootout between the newish Seas Excel C18en001 coax and the BG Neo 10/Neo 3 combo. Both open baffle. Both running down to 250Hz.
So the question is whether there is a better choice than the Neo 3 that has appeared recently?
I'd like cross around 3Khz, preferably passively although I will do overall EQ and the cross to woofers actively, and it needs to have decent vertical dispersion as the speakers are mounted higher than is ideal.
Any suggestions?
I'm pretty happy with my main system, a 4 way active system with BG Neo3, Neo 10, Peerless SLS10 (all dipole) in a simple tapered baffle crossing to a pair of Rythmik subs in a very big room.
But for domestic reasons I'm trying to get sound as good or better in the family room, although I don't need as much volume.
I'm doing a shootout between the newish Seas Excel C18en001 coax and the BG Neo 10/Neo 3 combo. Both open baffle. Both running down to 250Hz.
So the question is whether there is a better choice than the Neo 3 that has appeared recently?
I'd like cross around 3Khz, preferably passively although I will do overall EQ and the cross to woofers actively, and it needs to have decent vertical dispersion as the speakers are mounted higher than is ideal.
Any suggestions?
first name that comes to mind is Heil AMT, of which several models are now available to DIY builders http://esslabsusa.com/heil-amt/
not inexpensive, still world class performance
not inexpensive, still world class performance
I had great results using the big heil with extension "horns" front and back as a directed dipole- really impressive performance.
B&G Neos are out of prouction. Raals are expensive. Various AMT/planar tweeters are available alas B&G copies (eg. brand Audiopur). Someone should study which models work best open-back
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/ribbon-tweeters/
100+ Tweeters in stock from Vifa, Dayton Audio, Aurum Cantus, Goldwood, Beston, and other High Quality Tweeter brands.
Ribbon Tweeter: Consumer Electronics | eBay
Tweeters Ribbon - Europe audio
http://www.raidho.dk/uploads/Raidho-Acoustics-Ribbon-Tweeter-FTT75.pdf
Strassacker: Speaker Building, Components
Strassacker: Speaker Building, Components
Transmission Audio Inc.
SWANS-Speaker: SWANS Ribbon Tweeter
AMT / Ribbon Tweeters
Ribbon Tweeter, Ribbon Tweeter direct from Zhejiang Tianle Audio Co., Ltd. in China (Mainland)
etc PLG!
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https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/ribbon-tweeters/
100+ Tweeters in stock from Vifa, Dayton Audio, Aurum Cantus, Goldwood, Beston, and other High Quality Tweeter brands.
Ribbon Tweeter: Consumer Electronics | eBay
Tweeters Ribbon - Europe audio
http://www.raidho.dk/uploads/Raidho-Acoustics-Ribbon-Tweeter-FTT75.pdf
Strassacker: Speaker Building, Components
Strassacker: Speaker Building, Components
Transmission Audio Inc.
SWANS-Speaker: SWANS Ribbon Tweeter
AMT / Ribbon Tweeters
Ribbon Tweeter, Ribbon Tweeter direct from Zhejiang Tianle Audio Co., Ltd. in China (Mainland)
etc PLG!
Tests
default page
Zaph|Audio
B&G Neos are out of prouction. Raals are expensive. Various AMT/planar tweeters are available alas B&G copies (eg. brand Audiopur). Someone should study which models work best open-back
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/ribbon-tweeters/
100+ Tweeters in stock from Vifa, Dayton Audio, Aurum Cantus, Goldwood, Beston, and other High Quality Tweeter brands.
Ribbon Tweeter: Consumer Electronics | eBay
Tweeters Ribbon - Europe audio
http://www.raidho.dk/uploads/Raidho-Acoustics-Ribbon-Tweeter-FTT75.pdf
Strassacker: Speaker Building, Components
Strassacker: Speaker Building, Components
Transmission Audio Inc.
SWANS-Speaker: SWANS Ribbon Tweeter
AMT / Ribbon Tweeters
Ribbon Tweeter, Ribbon Tweeter direct from Zhejiang Tianle Audio Co., Ltd. in China (Mainland)
etc PSG!
Tests
default page
Zaph|Audio
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/ribbon-tweeters/
100+ Tweeters in stock from Vifa, Dayton Audio, Aurum Cantus, Goldwood, Beston, and other High Quality Tweeter brands.
Ribbon Tweeter: Consumer Electronics | eBay
Tweeters Ribbon - Europe audio
http://www.raidho.dk/uploads/Raidho-Acoustics-Ribbon-Tweeter-FTT75.pdf
Strassacker: Speaker Building, Components
Strassacker: Speaker Building, Components
Transmission Audio Inc.
SWANS-Speaker: SWANS Ribbon Tweeter
AMT / Ribbon Tweeters
Ribbon Tweeter, Ribbon Tweeter direct from Zhejiang Tianle Audio Co., Ltd. in China (Mainland)
etc PSG!
Tests
default page
Zaph|Audio
It’s not a “never ending” question for me . . . after trying dipole ribbons, dipole planars and back to back domes I’ve concluded that, in my room at least, above 3-4 kHz no back radiation sounds best (although the transition from dipole to forward only should be smooth and a couple octaves wide). Dipole “full range” is simply too bright, and the hf roll off needed to compensate compromises the direct (front) response. I might conclude differently in a larger room (mine is 16ft x 24ft) or if I put absorbers on the front wall (particularly the wall/ceiling corner) . . .
Several of the Mundorf AMT designs are available in both mono- and dipole forms from Madisound (though what is in stock in the US is another questions, these have long lead times when out)
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/amt/
In addition to sounding great, amazingly high power handling and very usable efficiencies (90ish). They also publish waterfall charts which you can use to compare the energy storage of the mono- vs. dipole, not much difference there IMHO. Of course if you are looking for a dipole because you like the dispersion and reflections from the rear this may not matter to you very much.
At least some of the Dayton AMTs available from Parts Express come in dipole or dipole covertable fashion and use a Mundorf ... er.... (what do you call the moving part in an AMT?) ribbon I believe at much more affordable prices. Here is one of at least 2 such models:
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-amtpro-4-air-motion-transformer-tweeter-4-ohm--275-094
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/amt/
In addition to sounding great, amazingly high power handling and very usable efficiencies (90ish). They also publish waterfall charts which you can use to compare the energy storage of the mono- vs. dipole, not much difference there IMHO. Of course if you are looking for a dipole because you like the dispersion and reflections from the rear this may not matter to you very much.
At least some of the Dayton AMTs available from Parts Express come in dipole or dipole covertable fashion and use a Mundorf ... er.... (what do you call the moving part in an AMT?) ribbon I believe at much more affordable prices. Here is one of at least 2 such models:
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-amtpro-4-air-motion-transformer-tweeter-4-ohm--275-094
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