Amphion Ion+ - do not mix with regular Ion.
and a few other links (reviews):
6moons audio reviews: Amphion Ion+
The Amphion Ion+ - Music and Hifi unite! | Amphion
Recording monitor that you can actually listen in regular environment too...
or KEF LS50 (didn't listen while still only pre-order but have positive reviews)
and a few other links (reviews):
6moons audio reviews: Amphion Ion+
The Amphion Ion+ - Music and Hifi unite! | Amphion
Recording monitor that you can actually listen in regular environment too...
or KEF LS50 (didn't listen while still only pre-order but have positive reviews)
OMG. Who would really recommend those in a recording studio.
What sort of budget are you working to ?
What sort of budget are you working to ?
I've always wondered about near field monitors
Since they are pointed directly at your ears and generally about 1 meter away, it makes sense to have a smaller speaker without large spacing between the drivers.
Anyone ever try a full range speaker with a "helper tweeter" crossed at around 10KHz and run dual active subs at 60Hz and below? That would keep any crossover out of the sensitive portion of human hearing which might help? Since full ranges beam, the close distance and direction help eliminate this problem. The beaming would help prevent bounce from the walls so might be a good thing?
I was looking at the Mark Audio Alpair 12P--the 6.5 inch full range with paper cone that makes it to 22 KHz. It can easily go down to 60Hz and a simple capacitor/variable power resistor on an efficient tweeter at 10K allow to dial in the last octave to taste. Efficiency is 92dB 1w/1m with a power handling of 30W RMS and 60W program--enough to damage your hearing as a desk top monitor.
Since they are pointed directly at your ears and generally about 1 meter away, it makes sense to have a smaller speaker without large spacing between the drivers.
Anyone ever try a full range speaker with a "helper tweeter" crossed at around 10KHz and run dual active subs at 60Hz and below? That would keep any crossover out of the sensitive portion of human hearing which might help? Since full ranges beam, the close distance and direction help eliminate this problem. The beaming would help prevent bounce from the walls so might be a good thing?
I was looking at the Mark Audio Alpair 12P--the 6.5 inch full range with paper cone that makes it to 22 KHz. It can easily go down to 60Hz and a simple capacitor/variable power resistor on an efficient tweeter at 10K allow to dial in the last octave to taste. Efficiency is 92dB 1w/1m with a power handling of 30W RMS and 60W program--enough to damage your hearing as a desk top monitor.
The first link...well those monitors seem to have put a longwinded abbreviation, roughly translating to CD....Has Dr.Geddes noticed I wonder? Would he care?
For a few hundred pounds you could just get dare i say it?
Some BBCs from Ebay.....I recorded with them as a teenager in a band, and I have lived with a pair everyday for most of my life. I good sub, and maybe an active setup to cut the bass from the BBCs and LP for the sub. For all their shortcomings, you need the flatness of response these class 2 monitors have. I dont think you could get much more 'Bang for Buck'.
Seriously.
Although re-reading... Im not sure you could get some BBCs for $200. more like £500 I reckon. Ive not used many monitors like these, but I have used some small ones similar to those....I think they were Alesis. They were cheap I think, and reasonable.
For a few hundred pounds you could just get dare i say it?
Some BBCs from Ebay.....I recorded with them as a teenager in a band, and I have lived with a pair everyday for most of my life. I good sub, and maybe an active setup to cut the bass from the BBCs and LP for the sub. For all their shortcomings, you need the flatness of response these class 2 monitors have. I dont think you could get much more 'Bang for Buck'.
Seriously.
Although re-reading... Im not sure you could get some BBCs for $200. more like £500 I reckon. Ive not used many monitors like these, but I have used some small ones similar to those....I think they were Alesis. They were cheap I think, and reasonable.
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for 200$!?!
I do not know anything in this price range except Cakewalk MA-15 or M-Audio AV-40.
Those ones are cheap and M-Audio can be easy found in computer stores... or go with some used ones like JBL LSR2325 or Yamaha HS50.
If you put just slightly more over your budget probably you can get KRK RP5 G2...
Edit: Oh, I see someone posted in the same time as me the JBL's, but they are around 200$ each but look on used market or your budget must go higher.
I do not know anything in this price range except Cakewalk MA-15 or M-Audio AV-40.
Those ones are cheap and M-Audio can be easy found in computer stores... or go with some used ones like JBL LSR2325 or Yamaha HS50.
If you put just slightly more over your budget probably you can get KRK RP5 G2...
Edit: Oh, I see someone posted in the same time as me the JBL's, but they are around 200$ each but look on used market or your budget must go higher.
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KRK seem to have some voicing issues - Rokit 6:
I would consider also the Behringer 1030A @ $300. There is a bit of an on axis null so this would best be listened to with minimal toe-in or a crossfire, where I think they would be balanced and resolving:
+1 to dan the man for these measurements, btw.
a bit like asking for the moon on a stick. If you ask me, tonal neutrality and flat response are hard to come by cheaply without giving up some quality or detail resolution. I wouldnt touch a monitor that was less than 500, or active at least a grand. When u consider the likelihood of a 100% mark up.
I dont much like the trace for those behringer either, so called BBC dip from 1-4khz of circa 2dB. When recording with monitors like those, its hard not to get shouty vocals, when the track is played on another stereo.
I dont much like the trace for those behringer either, so called BBC dip from 1-4khz of circa 2dB. When recording with monitors like those, its hard not to get shouty vocals, when the track is played on another stereo.
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Since I am new to the field (Got introduce only about a year ago) I am not familiar with the market and prices ...... I just wanted to make a start .
If you have not yet invested in power amplifiers, some of the Behringer self-powered (active) speakers might be the budget way to go.
The $200 budget sorta rules out the Genelec monitors ....
If I were shopping where I live (and I sorta am, all the time) I would be looking for "targets of opportunity." Checking pawn shops, Craig's list, For Sale ads in whatever medium they commonly appear in where you live for something good and used.
Good studio practice means lower volumes for tracking and mixing with other gear used for the "reality check" ranging from plastic boomboxes to big woofy home stereo speakers. But to track you want to shine a spotlight and that isn't necessarily a "nice" sound just a very clear and articulate one. A million great recordings have been made with those almost harsh Yamaha NS-10s.
If I were shopping where I live (and I sorta am, all the time) I would be looking for "targets of opportunity." Checking pawn shops, Craig's list, For Sale ads in whatever medium they commonly appear in where you live for something good and used.
Good studio practice means lower volumes for tracking and mixing with other gear used for the "reality check" ranging from plastic boomboxes to big woofy home stereo speakers. But to track you want to shine a spotlight and that isn't necessarily a "nice" sound just a very clear and articulate one. A million great recordings have been made with those almost harsh Yamaha NS-10s.
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