What are the best resistors to put in the signal path of a pre-amp.
The values that I need are 50-60kohm.
I am thinking of using Caddock or Vishay.
Which is better for this application??
Or is there something even Better??
Thanks
The values that I need are 50-60kohm.
I am thinking of using Caddock or Vishay.
Which is better for this application??
Or is there something even Better??
Thanks
For sure I am going to use "metal film"
But I would like to know waht the best choice is for the
Signal Path...
But I would like to know waht the best choice is for the
Signal Path...
rtate said:For sure I am going to use "metal film"
What's so sure about it? I like Shinkoh tantalums or Riken carbon films as much as Caddocks. A Vishay or Caddock is certainly a safe choice but neither can be pronounced best in all situations. It's your ears and system - if sound is important to you be prepared to make the effort and compare yourself.
I'm quite sure that between metal films, the effect on sound is negligible is at all.
Of course, cheap carbon composition resistors are more noisy.
analog_sa, since you seem to have a lot of comments about componenets, you must have one hell of a system. Can you share the detials with us?
Of course, cheap carbon composition resistors are more noisy.
analog_sa, since you seem to have a lot of comments about componenets, you must have one hell of a system. Can you share the detials with us?
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I have lately started using Dale RN55E for most applications. I have a lot of surplus bulk metal foil resistors from Texas Components, but think the Dales are just as good.
I picked up some ultra low TCM Dale PTF-56 resistors. Used them as a buffer, between a chip and series output coupling cap. I am not totally sold, need to swap them out for some RN55E of the same svalue to see. But I suspect the difference in the resistors is swamped by the non-linearities of the 10 ufd electrolytic coupling caps. The chip is single rail, there are several volts polarizing the cap.
I really think that resistors are not a big deal. Built a LOT of quiet circuits with AB carbon comp. Also built a lot with Vishay S102. I think that better quality resistors are wasted in most applications. But use a magnet to check for steel leads or end caps. Avoid those.
George
I have lately started using Dale RN55E for most applications. I have a lot of surplus bulk metal foil resistors from Texas Components, but think the Dales are just as good.
I picked up some ultra low TCM Dale PTF-56 resistors. Used them as a buffer, between a chip and series output coupling cap. I am not totally sold, need to swap them out for some RN55E of the same svalue to see. But I suspect the difference in the resistors is swamped by the non-linearities of the 10 ufd electrolytic coupling caps. The chip is single rail, there are several volts polarizing the cap.
I really think that resistors are not a big deal. Built a LOT of quiet circuits with AB carbon comp. Also built a lot with Vishay S102. I think that better quality resistors are wasted in most applications. But use a magnet to check for steel leads or end caps. Avoid those.
George
John,
can you tell us precisely how the sound is affected, since in the overall amplifier cct we are unable to measure any differences (note I am talking about audio ccts - not RF).
I am not proposing using cheap resistors, but please help me understand how two good quality metal films can make a clear audible difference where that difference cannot be measured.
can you tell us precisely how the sound is affected, since in the overall amplifier cct we are unable to measure any differences (note I am talking about audio ccts - not RF).
I am not proposing using cheap resistors, but please help me understand how two good quality metal films can make a clear audible difference where that difference cannot be measured.
We have been formally evaluating resistors since the middle '80's. Beyond excess noise, which can be important, lead material and attachment makes a BIG difference. You can find articles on resistors in 'Hi Fi News' in the mid '80's.
If you throw a penny into the ocean you have caused displacement, and the water level has risen, but, can you really measure it?
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john curl said:As if you knew anything about audio testing.
Riigght. It is so special and different from other electronics related areas.
What brand of resistors do you have in your AudioPrecision signal generator/distortion analyser, John ? Can you hear those ?
Bratislav said:
Riigght. It is so special and different from other electronics related areas.
Yes it is. The difference is in the way how we evaluate results. On the screen (no matter if in time or frequency domain) or by ears and brains. Also, we simulate real waveshapes in instrumentation much closer to reality than in audio.
Last but not least, the sidebar effects are overlooked (HF interference, layout influence, grounding influence). We can measure differences, but who would tell from them how it will sound??
PMA said:Last but not least, the sidebar effects are overlooked (HF interference, layout influence, grounding influence). We can measure differences, but who would tell from them how it will sound??
Surely not an advertiser-cum-critic from ab$olute$tereo using fully sighted "tests".
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