Priorities and Tastes
Ok, sorry bad analogy perhaps.
Of course it all depends on ones priorities and resources, but if you have heard and you can afford a really decent system, an Akai shelf system does not satisfy anymore.
I think you know what I meant. 😉
Eric.
I have had customers bring in an Akai shelf system, lament that it broken, and then proceed to tell me that it a fantastic stereo when working.
I just smile politely.
Pps - I grew up with two Aston Martins in my old mans garage - nowadays I'm perfectly happy with my old Ford - It does the same job !.
Ok, sorry bad analogy perhaps.
Of course it all depends on ones priorities and resources, but if you have heard and you can afford a really decent system, an Akai shelf system does not satisfy anymore.
I think you know what I meant. 😉
Eric.
I have had customers bring in an Akai shelf system, lament that it broken, and then proceed to tell me that it a fantastic stereo when working.
I just smile politely.
Pps - I grew up with two Aston Martins in my old mans garage - nowadays I'm perfectly happy with my old Ford - It does the same job !.
Re: Priorities and Tastes
Certainly this is true, at least to some extent... but some of my carefully selected Frugal-phile(tm) systems played out on the apron of the garage can sure play enjoyable music even thou i know what they are missing compared to my reference system... in the end, as long as the listener enjoys the music that is a good hifi for that person at that time...
dave
mrfeedback said:
Certainly this is true, at least to some extent... but some of my carefully selected Frugal-phile(tm) systems played out on the apron of the garage can sure play enjoyable music even thou i know what they are missing compared to my reference system... in the end, as long as the listener enjoys the music that is a good hifi for that person at that time...
dave
I have a friend who has a number of springs on his property and a very large tank stocked with trout.Within 15 minutes you can catch one, clean it, cook it and be eating it.
The frozen ones from the supermarket are not quite the same. 😉
As I get older, I find that if a system is not nasty, then I can easily put up with it.
For more serious listening, my memory still keeps going back to some of the really outstanding systems that I have heard though.
But I can still be content with anything that is reasonably decent = happily musical.
Eric.
The frozen ones from the supermarket are not quite the same. 😉
As I get older, I find that if a system is not nasty, then I can easily put up with it.
For more serious listening, my memory still keeps going back to some of the really outstanding systems that I have heard though.
But I can still be content with anything that is reasonably decent = happily musical.
Eric.
For me ANY system that plays good music is satisfactory as long as I KNOW that I can always go back to my reference one and listen to it whenever I want. I usually don't listen to it much though😉 . When I'm outside, simple Panasonic portable is fun and an old tape deck in a car is OK too. I just listen to the music and enjoy. 🙂
For me it's not the reproduction of music, I can enjoy a crappy system just as much as a good one, I can also enjoy playing the music myself. But the production of the stereo system is what's fun as well, building stuff is just damn cool.
It's Not Just the Music
Absolutely, Joebob.
My ears have had no training whatsoever as to what an 'audiophile quality' sound system should sound like. Right now, I doubt I could tell the difference between a reasonable off-the-shelf Sony system and a top-of-the-line hand-built system. As far as the music goes, I can appreciate it while playing on any reasonably good-sounding format and system.
That being said, we have to accept that there's a totally seperate 'damn, I did this' factor when it comes to building this stuff yourself. When I'm done, I intend everything but the digital source to be homemade in my sound system (and I know some people go further than that). It's not because I expect my system to immediately sound far and away better than what I'm used to. For me, it's not so much about the sound; it's about the personal satisfaction of knowing every detail of my system, and knowing that I built it all. And also knowing that I'm a few steps further away from the yoke of monster-corporate consumerism.
After all, I can give my money to MegaCorp and hope that their product lives up to their truth-bending PR hype. Or I can spend a little work and less money (hopefully) and increase my knowledge and experience, while also generating a superior product. As far as I'm concerned, that's a simple choice any day.
Of course, there's the hope that after prolonged exposure to my new system, I just might learn to identify and love what a truly superior sound really is. Just have to hope and see. Keep the tubes and silicon flowing, comrades.
- Jonathan
Absolutely, Joebob.
My ears have had no training whatsoever as to what an 'audiophile quality' sound system should sound like. Right now, I doubt I could tell the difference between a reasonable off-the-shelf Sony system and a top-of-the-line hand-built system. As far as the music goes, I can appreciate it while playing on any reasonably good-sounding format and system.
That being said, we have to accept that there's a totally seperate 'damn, I did this' factor when it comes to building this stuff yourself. When I'm done, I intend everything but the digital source to be homemade in my sound system (and I know some people go further than that). It's not because I expect my system to immediately sound far and away better than what I'm used to. For me, it's not so much about the sound; it's about the personal satisfaction of knowing every detail of my system, and knowing that I built it all. And also knowing that I'm a few steps further away from the yoke of monster-corporate consumerism.
After all, I can give my money to MegaCorp and hope that their product lives up to their truth-bending PR hype. Or I can spend a little work and less money (hopefully) and increase my knowledge and experience, while also generating a superior product. As far as I'm concerned, that's a simple choice any day.
Of course, there's the hope that after prolonged exposure to my new system, I just might learn to identify and love what a truly superior sound really is. Just have to hope and see. Keep the tubes and silicon flowing, comrades.
- Jonathan
Re: It's Not Just the Music
You might be surprised. I worked in a GOOD HiFi store for 5 years and we sold based on what stuff sounded like. People would come in and say, no way will i be able to hear a difference. They most often did.
dave
G-Daddy said:
You might be surprised. I worked in a GOOD HiFi store for 5 years and we sold based on what stuff sounded like. People would come in and say, no way will i be able to hear a difference. They most often did.
dave
Designing and building gear is objective, setting the system up and tweaking, trying different cables, drivers what ever is objective.
Music is subjective. If you system does not take you from the objective to the subjective then it has failed as you are listening to your gear.
Music is emotional. If it does not create an emotional responce then the music has failed you.
Music is subjective. If you system does not take you from the objective to the subjective then it has failed as you are listening to your gear.
Music is emotional. If it does not create an emotional responce then the music has failed you.
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