I am looking to build a pair of low profile speakers for my desktop. I have two widescreen monitors and I feel that the stereo separation is too great if I install speakers on the left and right sides. Here are my thoughts:
I have about 4" vertical room to work with below the monitors (may be able to push to 5" absolute max). Not much limitation on depth. Width less than 7" would be good.
I do have some drivers currently available to me to use:
Hi-Vi M3N (many)
CSS LD22 tweeter (2)
MA Pluvia 7 (2)
A couple of options considered:
M3N full range
M3N and LD22 MT or MTM
pluvia 7 full range
Has anyone pursued a build like this and have some advice to share? I am open to purchasing other drivers if there is a good fit for my application. Would like to keep driver cost under $200 though.
I'd say I'm most interested in the M3N MT or MTM but I do worry about the performance of the speakers in horizontal orientation. Or is this a non-issue in near-field if I maintain tight driver spacing?
I have about 4" vertical room to work with below the monitors (may be able to push to 5" absolute max). Not much limitation on depth. Width less than 7" would be good.
- Looking to use to play music and mix audio for podcasts. Low volume, near-field. Neutrality and detail is more important than punch or loudness.
- Sealed or bass reflex is fine.
- Will be able to filter and (if I go 2-way, add crossovers) via PC. I have a measurement microphone.
- Not looking for terribly deep bass (anything better than 120Hz would be good), I can add a subwoofer if needed.
I do have some drivers currently available to me to use:
Hi-Vi M3N (many)
CSS LD22 tweeter (2)
MA Pluvia 7 (2)
A couple of options considered:
M3N full range
M3N and LD22 MT or MTM
pluvia 7 full range
Has anyone pursued a build like this and have some advice to share? I am open to purchasing other drivers if there is a good fit for my application. Would like to keep driver cost under $200 though.
I'd say I'm most interested in the M3N MT or MTM but I do worry about the performance of the speakers in horizontal orientation. Or is this a non-issue in near-field if I maintain tight driver spacing?
The uFonkenWK has about 5” wide x 8 ½” tall (use sideways) but could be reworked to fit your needs, althou any shrinking of the 5” dimension could well bring a cuppy sound from early reflections off the close walls.
Similar could easily be designed for the M3M. I would avoid adding a tweeter, you will be physically too close to get good integration.
M3M is not up to the same level as the FF85wk (or the FF85wKeN) but you have them so why not.
dave
Similar could easily be designed for the M3M. I would avoid adding a tweeter, you will be physically too close to get good integration.
M3M is not up to the same level as the FF85wk (or the FF85wKeN) but you have them so why not.
dave
Thanks, that does look good but unfortunately our IKEA is under construction a few months longer.
The uFonkenWK has about 5” wide x 8 ½” tall (use sideways) but could be reworked to fit your needs, althou any shrinking of the 5” dimension could well bring a cuppy sound from early reflections off the close walls.
Similar could easily be designed for the M3M. I would avoid adding a tweeter, you will be physically too close to get good integration.
M3M is not up to the same level as the FF85wk (or the FF85wKeN) but you have them so why not.
dave
Thanks, I've heard the M3N doesn't sound the greatest in ported enclosures though, I am thinking sealed may be best if extension can be sacrificed.
Good point about the integration though. Listening distance is only 30" or so. Perhaps trying to integrate a tweeter into there is a bad idea.
I was also wondering about the cupped sound from the low angle, I am wondering how well that could respond to a bit of filtering.
I did some sims, 2 ⅔ litre sealed looks as good as is practical. Q=1 with a 1 dB bump before rolling off with an F10 = 60 Hz. The bump will give the effect of them seeling to have more bass than they do.
dave
dave
I was also wondering about the cupped sound from the low angle, I am wondering how well that could respond to a bit of filtering.
I would be very tempted to make the enclosure a wedgie, with a 10-15° slope on the front baffle.
dave
2.7 litres sounds like the right idea, reasonable size too. I am wondering if it is worth exploring lowering the monitors and adding the speakers above the monitors instead. Tough choice there. I think I will build the 2.7 sealed and then if I use it in the lower position angle it upwards with a small booster under the front edge and an angled cut under the back edge.
There is an optimal height for the monitors based on ergonomics. I’d not move them too far from that.
dave
dave
That's true, my maximum play range with comfort is about 1" in either direction. Beyond that it's not worth the discomfort.
All setup and sounding pretty good. Applied some slight eq boosts in the 40Hz to 90 Hz range and some slight cuts around 7k and 3k and it sounds balanced to my ears now.

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Just saw this. Was going to recommend the dragon foals for the m3n, but it looks like you've already built something. They're ported and they sound very good. There's build details on the PE tech talk forum.
Might improve sound quality quiet a bit by tilting the speakers up away from the desk top (refelxtions).
Cheers
Cheers
Just saw this. Was going to recommend the dragon foals for the m3n, but it looks like you've already built something. They're ported and they sound very good. There's build details on the PE tech talk forum.
Thanks for the input, would consider experimenting for sure. I still have a good number of M3Ns around (got some for $7 CAD each on sale).
Might improve sound quality quiet a bit by tilting the speakers up away from the desk top (refelxtions).
Cheers
Good idea, once I update my left (video) monitor to match the right one I will gain room to add some tilt there. I'm actually pleased that I don't notice any cupping effect to the sound but nonetheless it seems like it should only be an improvement.
I still have a good number of M3Ns around (got some for $7 CAD each on sale).
Me too 😀
"Dragon Foals" writeup - Techtalk Speaker Building, Audio, Video Discussion Forum
Wasn't able to post link before - don't think you'll be disappointed
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