I did a quick search to see if any threads have been posted quite like this one, and found none, so here it goes:
We all know that ESLs can reveal flaws and bad mixing on recordings, some of them are terrible. But what about recordings that you find exhilarating, very well mixed and with a 'holographic' or otherwise excellent image, (two channel wise)
Do you have any to share or recommend?
Just of the top of my head, I happen to love Supertramp's offerings, or back state-side, Billy Joel had some memorable sessions that were captured brilliantly over the years..
I am not starting a thread to rate artists and their music, but am trying to find music from any genre, in any language regardless of their place on the globe , that would be ear-opening and worthy of checking out, because the sound engineers happen to know what they are doing.
Any Takers? C'mon, give me something different to listen to, and I'll come back to this thread and recommend more of my personnel favorites.
Cheers
-wreck
We all know that ESLs can reveal flaws and bad mixing on recordings, some of them are terrible. But what about recordings that you find exhilarating, very well mixed and with a 'holographic' or otherwise excellent image, (two channel wise)
Do you have any to share or recommend?
Just of the top of my head, I happen to love Supertramp's offerings, or back state-side, Billy Joel had some memorable sessions that were captured brilliantly over the years..
I am not starting a thread to rate artists and their music, but am trying to find music from any genre, in any language regardless of their place on the globe , that would be ear-opening and worthy of checking out, because the sound engineers happen to know what they are doing.
Any Takers? C'mon, give me something different to listen to, and I'll come back to this thread and recommend more of my personnel favorites.
Cheers
-wreck
I listen with a set of Acoustat Model 3's, here's a few I enjoy, just off the top of my head....
CD's
Shpongle - Any cd will do!
Stevan Pasero - Jambossa
Manu Katche - Manu Katche
Kombo - Cookin Out
LP's
George Benson- White Rabbit (original pressing)
Earl Klugh- Nightsongs / Late Night Guitar
Chicago - Chicago VII
Donald Fagen - Nightfly
Hopefully others will chime in, I'm interested too.
CD's
Shpongle - Any cd will do!
Stevan Pasero - Jambossa
Manu Katche - Manu Katche
Kombo - Cookin Out
LP's
George Benson- White Rabbit (original pressing)
Earl Klugh- Nightsongs / Late Night Guitar
Chicago - Chicago VII
Donald Fagen - Nightfly
Hopefully others will chime in, I'm interested too.
Hi,
listening of course to my own ESLs. 😉
A example of fine music capable of giving instant goosebumps is the "Miserere" by Thomas Tallis, sung by "The Tallis Scholars" (gimell records-gimse 401).
See at Youtube
The recording is mostly low level and asks for extreme lowlevel resolution -where most dynamic speaker simply suck.
The second point of proof is the very spactial atmoshere created not only by the large cathedral´s sheer size but due to 4 groups of voices distanced dozens of feet apart.
Unfortunately many speakers and most amps aren´t capable to recreate the three-dimensional illusion realistically.
One must be able to locate, focus on and identify each singer within the 4 groups of voices precisely, even at the softest passages.
Any tendency of smearing of the voices by reverb, or a rather 2-dimensional sound stage is a sign of inferior speakers, setup or electronics.
I know that for example a Accuphase A60 fails badly on this kind of program material.
Amongst classic intrepreters I like Cecilia Bartoli alot.
On "the Art of Cecilia Bartoli" /Decca, DDD, 88-01 ) she duets with Luciano Pavarotti on Track 16 "L´elisir d´amore.."
See on Youtube
At the instant Pavarotti opens with ´Una parola, oh Ardina..´ You get goosebumped.
The second title from her is "Un pensiero nemico di pace", track No.3 on "Opera Proibita" (Decca – 475 6924).
See on Youtube
A fast played Aria composed by Händel.
A major Tour de Force for any singer and also extremely demanding for Your system.
The bartoli pushes and pushes and in the second fortissiomo she´s at her limit, beginning to press her voice.
On a good system, You´ll notice her beeing close to fainting, but her voice never becomes shrill.
On less capable systems her voice draws the inlets out of Your teeth and splits Your ear drums.
A bit exotic sounding to western ears may be the chinese singer Sa Dingding.
On her album "Alive" (Wrasse Records – WRASS 213) I like track No.2 "Alive" and No.3 "Holy Incense (Tibet Version) most.
Very nice deep sounding bass and male background humming.
See on clipfish
Another ghreat fe-male voice belongs to Marla Glen.
On "Humanology" (BHM Productions – BHM 1057-2) she covers Elvis´ Fever in a kind of BigBand style.
See on Youtube
The gaudy wind riffs and her remarkable deep and gnarly voice complement each other perfectly.
Btw.: Great stuff to present on shows.
Something completely different but a helluffun could be had with "Bobby Brown goes down" on the recording "the best of Frank Zappa" (Rykodisc – RCD10588 ).
The male choir roars like a bunch of testosteron plagued elks on heat. 😀
Another outstanding male voice belongs to Alexander Veljanov.
In the musical project "Deine Lakaien" he brilliantly combines elements of Dark Wave, Pop and Avantgarde.
Examples are found on "Kasmodiah", (Columbia Sony Music, col494203), like the "Intro" and "Return".
A kind of weird but nonetheless fascinating instrumental album I find "Apocalyptica plays Metallica by four Cellos" .
Four Fins fiddle frantically.
"Master of Puppets" or "The Unforgiven" are hard to digest, but still though simply great stuff.
See on Youtube
Something like looney tunes is "Doop Doop", track no.3 the "Ferry & Garnefski Remix).
See on Youtube
Turn up the volume and like the happy hopping bass and synthie line from 1:55
There´s many more to rave about but enough for the moment.
jauu
Calvin
listening of course to my own ESLs. 😉
A example of fine music capable of giving instant goosebumps is the "Miserere" by Thomas Tallis, sung by "The Tallis Scholars" (gimell records-gimse 401).
See at Youtube
The recording is mostly low level and asks for extreme lowlevel resolution -where most dynamic speaker simply suck.
The second point of proof is the very spactial atmoshere created not only by the large cathedral´s sheer size but due to 4 groups of voices distanced dozens of feet apart.
Unfortunately many speakers and most amps aren´t capable to recreate the three-dimensional illusion realistically.
One must be able to locate, focus on and identify each singer within the 4 groups of voices precisely, even at the softest passages.
Any tendency of smearing of the voices by reverb, or a rather 2-dimensional sound stage is a sign of inferior speakers, setup or electronics.
I know that for example a Accuphase A60 fails badly on this kind of program material.
Amongst classic intrepreters I like Cecilia Bartoli alot.
On "the Art of Cecilia Bartoli" /Decca, DDD, 88-01 ) she duets with Luciano Pavarotti on Track 16 "L´elisir d´amore.."
See on Youtube
At the instant Pavarotti opens with ´Una parola, oh Ardina..´ You get goosebumped.
The second title from her is "Un pensiero nemico di pace", track No.3 on "Opera Proibita" (Decca – 475 6924).
See on Youtube
A fast played Aria composed by Händel.
A major Tour de Force for any singer and also extremely demanding for Your system.
The bartoli pushes and pushes and in the second fortissiomo she´s at her limit, beginning to press her voice.
On a good system, You´ll notice her beeing close to fainting, but her voice never becomes shrill.
On less capable systems her voice draws the inlets out of Your teeth and splits Your ear drums.
A bit exotic sounding to western ears may be the chinese singer Sa Dingding.
On her album "Alive" (Wrasse Records – WRASS 213) I like track No.2 "Alive" and No.3 "Holy Incense (Tibet Version) most.
Very nice deep sounding bass and male background humming.
See on clipfish
Another ghreat fe-male voice belongs to Marla Glen.
On "Humanology" (BHM Productions – BHM 1057-2) she covers Elvis´ Fever in a kind of BigBand style.
See on Youtube
The gaudy wind riffs and her remarkable deep and gnarly voice complement each other perfectly.
Btw.: Great stuff to present on shows.
Something completely different but a helluffun could be had with "Bobby Brown goes down" on the recording "the best of Frank Zappa" (Rykodisc – RCD10588 ).
The male choir roars like a bunch of testosteron plagued elks on heat. 😀
Another outstanding male voice belongs to Alexander Veljanov.
In the musical project "Deine Lakaien" he brilliantly combines elements of Dark Wave, Pop and Avantgarde.
Examples are found on "Kasmodiah", (Columbia Sony Music, col494203), like the "Intro" and "Return".
A kind of weird but nonetheless fascinating instrumental album I find "Apocalyptica plays Metallica by four Cellos" .
Four Fins fiddle frantically.
"Master of Puppets" or "The Unforgiven" are hard to digest, but still though simply great stuff.
See on Youtube
Something like looney tunes is "Doop Doop", track no.3 the "Ferry & Garnefski Remix).
See on Youtube
Turn up the volume and like the happy hopping bass and synthie line from 1:55
There´s many more to rave about but enough for the moment.
jauu
Calvin
Thanks for the Doc Powell suggestion. Auditioning "The Doctor" on Spotify right now, truly excellent. Piltch and Davis may be more problematic as Spotify has no idea who they are. 🙄
Listening to my Acoustat 1+1's and 2+2's I'll list a few favorites.
If you like Acapella listen to Take 6, especially their "Feels Good" album
"Soular Energy" - Ray Brown Trio
"Testifyin' Live at the Village Vanguard - Benny Green
Doyle Lawson and Quicksilver 3 great gospel acapella songs
1 He's in Control
2 Going on Home
3 The Greatest Creator of them All
Gerry Mulligan Meets Ben Webster
John Pizzarelli Rockin' in Rhythm A tribute to Duke Ellington
I could go on and on but these are just a few great cuts that really come alive on my Acoustats
If you like Acapella listen to Take 6, especially their "Feels Good" album
"Soular Energy" - Ray Brown Trio
"Testifyin' Live at the Village Vanguard - Benny Green
Doyle Lawson and Quicksilver 3 great gospel acapella songs
1 He's in Control
2 Going on Home
3 The Greatest Creator of them All
Gerry Mulligan Meets Ben Webster
John Pizzarelli Rockin' in Rhythm A tribute to Duke Ellington
I could go on and on but these are just a few great cuts that really come alive on my Acoustats
Awesome suggestions so far, thanks everybody.
I didn't think about including a short description of tracks, but Calvin did just that...bravo!
I'm a big fan of progressive rock, so I'm just gonna name a few here:
Someone mentioned Don Fagen earlier, which reminded me of Steely Dan's album 'Aja'.. good throughout:
AJA BY STEELY DAN (FULL ALBUM) 1977 - YouTube
Next up is a personal fav of mine, although mostly overplayed on radio,
Fleetwood's Best-of
Fleetwood Mac - Greatest Hits 1988 (full) - YouTube
And there's a new kid on the block, who is a great Mixtec.
Steve Wilson from PT..
Porcupine Tree - Arriving Somewhere But Not Here (Live) - YouTube
And another of his:
Anesthetize - Porcupine Tree (Live) Full Song. - YouTube
many more to come...🙂
I didn't think about including a short description of tracks, but Calvin did just that...bravo!
I'm a big fan of progressive rock, so I'm just gonna name a few here:
Someone mentioned Don Fagen earlier, which reminded me of Steely Dan's album 'Aja'.. good throughout:
AJA BY STEELY DAN (FULL ALBUM) 1977 - YouTube
Next up is a personal fav of mine, although mostly overplayed on radio,
Fleetwood's Best-of
Fleetwood Mac - Greatest Hits 1988 (full) - YouTube
And there's a new kid on the block, who is a great Mixtec.
Steve Wilson from PT..
Porcupine Tree - Arriving Somewhere But Not Here (Live) - YouTube
And another of his:
Anesthetize - Porcupine Tree (Live) Full Song. - YouTube
many more to come...🙂
For me, the best test recordings are ones I've heard on many systems for many years.
I've heard the orchestral anvil on track 6 of the Holst Band Suites (Fennell) thousands of times. Sometimes it sounds like a bell, xylophone, or triangle. Or exactly like an anvil being hit with a metal bar when all the partials are lined up right.
Large jazz band: The Big Train, Marsalis. Defies home reproduction.... easier to reproduce Mahler's Second at home.
Ben
I've heard the orchestral anvil on track 6 of the Holst Band Suites (Fennell) thousands of times. Sometimes it sounds like a bell, xylophone, or triangle. Or exactly like an anvil being hit with a metal bar when all the partials are lined up right.
Large jazz band: The Big Train, Marsalis. Defies home reproduction.... easier to reproduce Mahler's Second at home.
Ben
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Some of the best stuff I have used for testing my ESL's are in the following,
Spin Doctors "What Time Is it" ~ some of the Punchiest bass lines and Cleanest transient drums I have ever heard on CD.
Spandau Ballet's "True" ~ the Guy's vocals are breathtaking and is a superior example of a great recording and the dynamics from soft to loud is great too, except for the click on the kick drum is way to high and can reek havoc for your system if your amplifier can't handle such high frequency transients.
Crowded House "Don't Dream it's Over"~ Just a great tune with an excellent mix of different instruments and mixed very well!!!
David Bowie's " Golden years"~ It can be hard to find the best version of this on Youtube, But when you do you will know it, The micro detail of the reverb on the opening Finger Click's and the opening drum roll to the main body of the song is very clean and deep in ambiance and that sax will just bring chills to your spine because it is so real on an ESL
Foghat's First Album"Foghat"~ Not much to say about this one as it is just plain Most Excellent!!
If you mange to find the version of "Sara Lee" that has the added Drum Lick at the end of it, the recording is so clean the drums will be crisp with no coloration and you will feel like you are actually sitting in front of, or at, the drum kit in the very same room as it was recorded in.
Kansas "Carry on Wayward Son"~ We all know this one, The recording is just Impeccable !!!
The Same goes for Boston's First Album~ "Smokin'", "Rock-N-Roll band" and "Foreplay/Longtime" are a must listen and of course don't forget "More than a Feeling" and "Piece of Mind" too!!
Captain Beyond~ Just plain Great stuff there!!!
Emerson Lake and Palmer "Trilogy"~ "From the Beginning" if your panels and your woofer are working in unison this will be an experience of a seamless dream!!!!
Don't forget about "Lucky Man" as well!!!
Pink Floyd's "Darkside of the Moon"~ If you like this imagine what it would have been like if they had mixed this using some ESL's!!
You will be distracted by the Edits,splices and shifting levels of Tape hiss in this piece.
You can hear every little detail and nuance that you have never ever noticed before on any other speaker system on a set of ESL's.
I was quite disappointed in listening to this album and it took me sometime to get used too.
I have no idea how the Remastered CD sounds as my copy got stolen years ago when I got it when it was First released.
Peter Frampton's "Comes Alive"~ The same thing goes here to, although his performance is impeccable.
Green day's "Dookie"~ another perfect example of a clean recording and poppy bass lines and percussion and they really rock when they start to break it down!!!
CSNY "Deja Vu"~ I can't say enough about this classic recording.
The album I have is so clean that you can hear the master tape hiss start after I drop the needle on to the Very First track!!!
"Almost cut my Hair" is so real, I almost went out and did it!!!
The Early Beetles~ Well, To hear Paul and Johns Vocals on "Twist and Shout" and the Ker Chunk sound of George and Johns Rickenbacker guitars on "When I saw her standing there" Just brought chills to my spine to get up and move just like they did they to the rest of the world back in the day!!!
Montrose !! "Rock Candy" and "Bad Motor Scooter" ~ You wanna rock!!
This is the band to listen to, and, It is the only stuff from Sammy Hagar that I care about!
Again besides being a couple of the Best Classic Rockin' tunes ever written, The recording is amazing when it comes to the opening drum tracks in these two pieces, Not to mention Ronnie and Sammy's Smooth Guitar work!
As you will see bass and drums is not all about your woofer system!!
In order too accurately reproduce these types of sounds you must also have a Midrange and Treble system that can produce such high transients with a very very low THD.
IMHO that is were an ESL will prevail compared to any average magnetic driver hands down with such simplicity.
And finally,
Faith no More's "Epic" and "Falling to Pieces" ~ I used to tune my Tape Decks using the piano piece of this track, and the sound of fingernails rasping on the bass strings in "Falling to Piece" can only be acutely replicated using an ESL for the high end.
This is pretty much my beginning test list and I don't have many more after this as it is a bit difficult just to get away from the enjoyment of listening to just these very tunes as they are on my ESL's.
If they are ready after this list, Then they will take on anything you can throw at them with ease!!!
FWIW
jer 🙂
Spin Doctors "What Time Is it" ~ some of the Punchiest bass lines and Cleanest transient drums I have ever heard on CD.
Spandau Ballet's "True" ~ the Guy's vocals are breathtaking and is a superior example of a great recording and the dynamics from soft to loud is great too, except for the click on the kick drum is way to high and can reek havoc for your system if your amplifier can't handle such high frequency transients.
Crowded House "Don't Dream it's Over"~ Just a great tune with an excellent mix of different instruments and mixed very well!!!
David Bowie's " Golden years"~ It can be hard to find the best version of this on Youtube, But when you do you will know it, The micro detail of the reverb on the opening Finger Click's and the opening drum roll to the main body of the song is very clean and deep in ambiance and that sax will just bring chills to your spine because it is so real on an ESL
Foghat's First Album"Foghat"~ Not much to say about this one as it is just plain Most Excellent!!
If you mange to find the version of "Sara Lee" that has the added Drum Lick at the end of it, the recording is so clean the drums will be crisp with no coloration and you will feel like you are actually sitting in front of, or at, the drum kit in the very same room as it was recorded in.
Kansas "Carry on Wayward Son"~ We all know this one, The recording is just Impeccable !!!
The Same goes for Boston's First Album~ "Smokin'", "Rock-N-Roll band" and "Foreplay/Longtime" are a must listen and of course don't forget "More than a Feeling" and "Piece of Mind" too!!
Captain Beyond~ Just plain Great stuff there!!!
Emerson Lake and Palmer "Trilogy"~ "From the Beginning" if your panels and your woofer are working in unison this will be an experience of a seamless dream!!!!
Don't forget about "Lucky Man" as well!!!
Pink Floyd's "Darkside of the Moon"~ If you like this imagine what it would have been like if they had mixed this using some ESL's!!
You will be distracted by the Edits,splices and shifting levels of Tape hiss in this piece.
You can hear every little detail and nuance that you have never ever noticed before on any other speaker system on a set of ESL's.
I was quite disappointed in listening to this album and it took me sometime to get used too.
I have no idea how the Remastered CD sounds as my copy got stolen years ago when I got it when it was First released.
Peter Frampton's "Comes Alive"~ The same thing goes here to, although his performance is impeccable.
Green day's "Dookie"~ another perfect example of a clean recording and poppy bass lines and percussion and they really rock when they start to break it down!!!
CSNY "Deja Vu"~ I can't say enough about this classic recording.
The album I have is so clean that you can hear the master tape hiss start after I drop the needle on to the Very First track!!!
"Almost cut my Hair" is so real, I almost went out and did it!!!
The Early Beetles~ Well, To hear Paul and Johns Vocals on "Twist and Shout" and the Ker Chunk sound of George and Johns Rickenbacker guitars on "When I saw her standing there" Just brought chills to my spine to get up and move just like they did they to the rest of the world back in the day!!!
Montrose !! "Rock Candy" and "Bad Motor Scooter" ~ You wanna rock!!
This is the band to listen to, and, It is the only stuff from Sammy Hagar that I care about!
Again besides being a couple of the Best Classic Rockin' tunes ever written, The recording is amazing when it comes to the opening drum tracks in these two pieces, Not to mention Ronnie and Sammy's Smooth Guitar work!
As you will see bass and drums is not all about your woofer system!!
In order too accurately reproduce these types of sounds you must also have a Midrange and Treble system that can produce such high transients with a very very low THD.
IMHO that is were an ESL will prevail compared to any average magnetic driver hands down with such simplicity.
And finally,
Faith no More's "Epic" and "Falling to Pieces" ~ I used to tune my Tape Decks using the piano piece of this track, and the sound of fingernails rasping on the bass strings in "Falling to Piece" can only be acutely replicated using an ESL for the high end.
This is pretty much my beginning test list and I don't have many more after this as it is a bit difficult just to get away from the enjoyment of listening to just these very tunes as they are on my ESL's.
If they are ready after this list, Then they will take on anything you can throw at them with ease!!!
FWIW
jer 🙂
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great .....Jer..................
I think just any of.......... FathLess....
so minny hehe...... were luck to have all this killer sound...i live on Spotify
i try to go back......not bad for what MP3s.......
I think just any of.......... FathLess....
so minny hehe...... were luck to have all this killer sound...i live on Spotify
i try to go back......not bad for what MP3s.......
1. ALL recordings are cooked... even with a single mic, there is mic placement choice.
2. There is no objective and meaningful definition of "realistic" unless you can fit the orchestra into your music room for ABX comparison. But I suppose there is the possibility that an anechoically recorded smallish instrument reproduced in your music room is a meaningful criterion.
Anybody who starts by saying, "I go to a lot of live concerts and I think...." has little grasp how different is the world of good reproduced music from the world of live sound.
The best you can say is, "that recording sounds nice in my room... kind of nice how they mixed in a separate track by sticking the mic in the drum and maybe it will sound nice in your room." Or maybe, "here's the Kronos Quartet with a close-up mic emphasizing the rosin... if you like that kind of exaggeration."
Needless to offer my thoughts on totally synthetic recordings.
But the other side of the coin is a quite different matter. You certainly want your music system to be thoroughly neutral and to play fair with any recording. That enterprise is objectively approachable (in many respects but not all) even if not easy to do. Which brings us back to the wonderful sound of ESLs.
Ben
2. There is no objective and meaningful definition of "realistic" unless you can fit the orchestra into your music room for ABX comparison. But I suppose there is the possibility that an anechoically recorded smallish instrument reproduced in your music room is a meaningful criterion.
Anybody who starts by saying, "I go to a lot of live concerts and I think...." has little grasp how different is the world of good reproduced music from the world of live sound.
The best you can say is, "that recording sounds nice in my room... kind of nice how they mixed in a separate track by sticking the mic in the drum and maybe it will sound nice in your room." Or maybe, "here's the Kronos Quartet with a close-up mic emphasizing the rosin... if you like that kind of exaggeration."
Needless to offer my thoughts on totally synthetic recordings.
But the other side of the coin is a quite different matter. You certainly want your music system to be thoroughly neutral and to play fair with any recording. That enterprise is objectively approachable (in many respects but not all) even if not easy to do. Which brings us back to the wonderful sound of ESLs.
Ben
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Thanks Jer and all...
I don't understand why included Fleetwood on my prog rock post..😛
Must have been...
Anyways, thanks for all of your suggestions, lots of good stuff...
I'll post some better stuff once I'm not so busy with work..😉
I don't understand why included Fleetwood on my prog rock post..😛
Must have been...
Anyways, thanks for all of your suggestions, lots of good stuff...
I'll post some better stuff once I'm not so busy with work..😉
If you like electronica I would recommend the swedish artist Solar Fields. Especially the album Movements is suberb.
Singer-songwriter Sophie Zelmani (also from Sweden) has some nice recordings like the album Soul.
Otherwise I find that any mellow track by Satriani (like Love Thing, Rubina, Home, Always with me Always with you, You Saved my Life, Come on Baby, Starry Night etc.) sounds magical on my Acoustats.
Singer-songwriter Sophie Zelmani (also from Sweden) has some nice recordings like the album Soul.
Otherwise I find that any mellow track by Satriani (like Love Thing, Rubina, Home, Always with me Always with you, You Saved my Life, Come on Baby, Starry Night etc.) sounds magical on my Acoustats.
Hi,
I don´t know.
It´d been nice if You -or anybody else- had written something more than just a name.
Why should it be a group/album/title worth listening to over ESLs?
A short description of what genre it belongs to, and/or links to trailers or listening examples would be great too.
If everybody just lists a personal favourit´s name the thread could go on forever without ever getting some juice out of it.
jauu
Calvin
I don´t know.
It´d been nice if You -or anybody else- had written something more than just a name.
Why should it be a group/album/title worth listening to over ESLs?
A short description of what genre it belongs to, and/or links to trailers or listening examples would be great too.
If everybody just lists a personal favourit´s name the thread could go on forever without ever getting some juice out of it.
jauu
Calvin
Carly is 70's - 80's pop rock. It's been reported that her recordings have the lowest bass notes at that time. Korn is hardcore heavy metal but, very musical and well recorded. Seriously give Korn's "Freak on a leash" a try. You'll be surprised how good they are. Korn records with the highest technology there is and they really play with it.
Korn's "Freak on a leash" ..........i have them playing now.....with the free Spotify................................................
get that free...
i can hear for my self what i think about the sound....i dont need more than the name..... what ever input is fine too...................but in the end... what i think about the sound matters!
thanks
Alain Caron...........Conversations........
SOHN............Tremors
get that free...
i can hear for my self what i think about the sound....i dont need more than the name..... what ever input is fine too...................but in the end... what i think about the sound matters!
thanks
Alain Caron...........Conversations........
SOHN............Tremors
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