Have anyone tried making speakers with elements from electric organs?
Got my hands of a 12" whizzer cone element. Not alnico. Brand unknown - no labels or anything.
Put in an OB and got stunned!
It sounds quite good!
Got my hands of a 12" whizzer cone element. Not alnico. Brand unknown - no labels or anything.
Put in an OB and got stunned!
It sounds quite good!
old Hammond or Alan organ speakers are perfect for OB not what many around here would call "audiophile" but considering that sometimes they can be had cheap at yard sales or thrift stores and are relatively wide band and sensitive what the heck, i've made and sold quite a few.
I see a lot of people are giving them away for free around here.
Paired it with a 15" h-frame bass. Need a little filtering on the mids, but it's growing on me!
Not audiophile, but I like the sound. Surprisingly good.
Paired it with a 15" h-frame bass. Need a little filtering on the mids, but it's growing on me!
Not audiophile, but I like the sound. Surprisingly good.
a few years back i found an old L100 hammond that had a bad tone generator, i sent the tone generator to scrap (made 40 cdn at a local metal recycler) kept the case amp and speakers intact complete with foot pedal volume control and sold it to someone for 200 as a unique TV stand the guy used it as his center channel in a home theatre!(not bad for a curbside find!)
ps don't tell my wife i found another one and i'm gonna do it again!
ps don't tell my wife i found another one and i'm gonna do it again!
no not really just hate seeing useable gear go to the trash heap!
alot of guitar player like using the tube amp chassis for homebrew amps too!
alot of guitar player like using the tube amp chassis for homebrew amps too!
The organ speakers I have seen are part of the instrument's voicing and are NOT high fidelity. The big 15" woofers may work as a sub, but even then, if they came from the console, they need a very large box to work.
It may also be worth noting that the old Hammond Organ tone cabinets were designed to have a fairly steep rolloff above the 6 KHz region in an attempt to minimize the "key pop" noise inherent in the design.
well contemplate that next time your listening to music with a really "cool organ solo" (i'm an Emerson Lake & Palmer fan myself)
we hope to have stereo's with the ability to reproduce the sounds created by these exact type of driver's.
as DIY'er with a background in pro audio and MI service i think some of these drivers are contenders properly applied.
we hope to have stereo's with the ability to reproduce the sounds created by these exact type of driver's.
as DIY'er with a background in pro audio and MI service i think some of these drivers are contenders properly applied.
Sure, I love ELP too! (Listening to Works vol. 1 at the moment.) But to broaden my point a bit, I believe there are different equipment requirements for producing music, and reproducing it. Most of the organ stuff is designed for the former; and although it may sometimes work surprisingly well for the latter, one can't assume this will always be the case.
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percussion control on a B3 (or a L100) adds a tonal accent at 12kz why would they use speakers that wouldn't reproduce it?
stop assuming the other end of the pool is shallow until you've waided into those waters, sounds like audiophile snobbery to me.
stop assuming the other end of the pool is shallow until you've waided into those waters, sounds like audiophile snobbery to me.
Quoting Alan Young, R & D engineer for Hammond Organ Co. from 1946 - 1976, from the book "The Hammond Organ: Beauty in the B," page 44:
"There is a gentle rolloff in the preamplifier response to minimize the key click...Furthermore, the highest frequency in this set of 91 tone wheels is 6 KHz. The speaker cones that we put in our Hammond cabinets were optimized to have a very sharp rolloff in the output above 6 KHz."
"There is a gentle rolloff in the preamplifier response to minimize the key click...Furthermore, the highest frequency in this set of 91 tone wheels is 6 KHz. The speaker cones that we put in our Hammond cabinets were optimized to have a very sharp rolloff in the output above 6 KHz."
your quote is a little out of context.
in the early developement stages of the B that's true, the engineers at Hammond tried all manner of things to minimize the "key pop" problem. that philosophy changed later as user's reported liking the percusive effect which was turned into a selectable feature. the fundemental of the top key is 5924.62Hz but the harmonics extend to the 8k range. besides which the B needs a Leslie we're talking L's and M's with the speakers built into the organ. not saying their top end is amazing either but in low to mid peformance some of these drivers are contenders.
in the early developement stages of the B that's true, the engineers at Hammond tried all manner of things to minimize the "key pop" problem. that philosophy changed later as user's reported liking the percusive effect which was turned into a selectable feature. the fundemental of the top key is 5924.62Hz but the harmonics extend to the 8k range. besides which the B needs a Leslie we're talking L's and M's with the speakers built into the organ. not saying their top end is amazing either but in low to mid peformance some of these drivers are contenders.
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It came from a Solina TL organ. Guessing mid 80's. Swiss.
My hearing is really messed up. Hence DIY. Never really found something that sound pleasing.
My speakers are great in my world, others may not think so🙂.
They are tweaked to my ears. That's HIFI to me.
Tried it in an enclosure but works best in OB.
My hearing is really messed up. Hence DIY. Never really found something that sound pleasing.
My speakers are great in my world, others may not think so🙂.
They are tweaked to my ears. That's HIFI to me.
Tried it in an enclosure but works best in OB.
now you need another one for stereo, and maybe a few more for surround sound!
just don't tell the audiophiles...😀
just don't tell the audiophiles...😀
Organ speaker are deliberately limited in HF response and have specs very much like other musical instrument speakers. They have high Qts, and very stiff suspensions. Some of the better ones are found in old Conn or Allen organs. Sizes found are the usual 15, 12 or 8 inch variety. Some of the best 6 X 9 drivers I experience were from a Conn set of what they called "pipe speakers". Most would work in the OBs of today with some careful equalization.
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