So I don't get the problem here. Who would be opposed to perpetual saving time? What is the purpose in 'falling back'? How is leaving it forward not best all year round? It's bewildering why after coming up with the idea one would then cancel it for half the year. Weird.
I'd like it all year round, but there are some issues, well covered by what we in the Public Service used to call "regular correspondents"; some examples, all true:
Geoff
- my son has to walk over 3km to school, what will Daylight Saving do to that?
- the cows will have to get up an hour earlier for milking;
- my husband gets 'frisky' in the mornings, now he'll be getting 'frisky' on the bus going to work;
- it will fade my curtains; and
- it's miserable getting up in the dark.
Geoff
Japan, India and China don't bother. It does seem a rattling anachronism that needs removing.
When I used to Visit Oulu, Finland in winter I couldn't get my head around how short the days were. I wondered at first why lunch was at 11AM, then I realised it was pitch dark by 1PM.
But as our computers and phones auto adjust these days we don't need to remember to change all the clocks. Except in the car where the UI is so awful you often just don't bother. I had a vauxhall in the late 90s that had it's clock linked to the time signal on the RDS carrier. That seemed sensible but no one else has picked that up, unless cars made in the last 15 years have finally done something sensible.
When I used to Visit Oulu, Finland in winter I couldn't get my head around how short the days were. I wondered at first why lunch was at 11AM, then I realised it was pitch dark by 1PM.
But as our computers and phones auto adjust these days we don't need to remember to change all the clocks. Except in the car where the UI is so awful you often just don't bother. I had a vauxhall in the late 90s that had it's clock linked to the time signal on the RDS carrier. That seemed sensible but no one else has picked that up, unless cars made in the last 15 years have finally done something sensible.
Getting rid of it is strongly opposed by the swivel chair warming community because it is annoying having to keep changing clocks twice a year.
Children have to travel in the dark either morning when drivers are not tired or in the evening when drivers are tired.
I reckon that there would be less problem with children if the drivers are not tired. The swivel chair warmers used to go on about children going to school in the dark. They just have to come back home in the dark instead.
Children have to travel in the dark either morning when drivers are not tired or in the evening when drivers are tired.
I reckon that there would be less problem with children if the drivers are not tired. The swivel chair warmers used to go on about children going to school in the dark. They just have to come back home in the dark instead.
I think most places that tried it found it better to stick on DST. But there's always someone to stop it. There are even some ******** in the english government proposing returning to imperial units.
The only place for "imperial" is in imperial mints...
The only place for "imperial" is in imperial mints...
I'm all for it here in the UK. During WW2 we were on 'double summer time' of +2 in summer and +1 in winter. There was also an experiment later on as described here:
"With the war over, Britain returned to British Summer Time except for an experiment between 1968 and 1971 when the clocks went forward but were not put back. The experiment was discontinued as it was found impossible to assess the advantages and disadvantages of British Summer Time."
Sounds a pretty weak excuse to bin it!
"With the war over, Britain returned to British Summer Time except for an experiment between 1968 and 1971 when the clocks went forward but were not put back. The experiment was discontinued as it was found impossible to assess the advantages and disadvantages of British Summer Time."
Sounds a pretty weak excuse to bin it!
Yeah - actually IIRC the accident figures supported keeping it that way, but politics prevailed...
I very much prefer standard (Winter) time.
Why? Beacuse at noon, sun is roughly at highest point in the sky and that suits natural biorhythm.
I can never properly adjust to DST, it just doesnt feel right.
Why? Beacuse at noon, sun is roughly at highest point in the sky and that suits natural biorhythm.
I can never properly adjust to DST, it just doesnt feel right.
a] Reason for DST in the Summer.
It added an hour for recreational activates after the evening commute period. Many activates would all but disappear without the extra hour.
b] Reason for not having DST in the Winter.
More evenly centers the morning & evening commute around Sun rise & Sun set.
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But DST could start much later, maybe May 1st., and could end a little sooner like Oct. 15th.
It added an hour for recreational activates after the evening commute period. Many activates would all but disappear without the extra hour.
b] Reason for not having DST in the Winter.
More evenly centers the morning & evening commute around Sun rise & Sun set.
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But DST could start much later, maybe May 1st., and could end a little sooner like Oct. 15th.
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In the summer it makes a lot of sense. A further adjustment in the summer (2 hours??) would even be welcomed by me. For the boats that don't have running lights (all scow classes and most sport boat classes), it gets tricky to squeeze in a Wednesday night race towards the end of the summer. You have a limited period between people getting off of work (~5 PM) and sunset to make everything happen.
Going on permanent DST means that local noon occurs later than it should. You are in a time zone for a reason.
That said it hasn’t hurt Western Europe who are an hour off where they should be and still go on summer time every year. Double summer time, actually.
I’m very happy to live in places where we don’t do all that time change nonsense.
That said it hasn’t hurt Western Europe who are an hour off where they should be and still go on summer time every year. Double summer time, actually.
I’m very happy to live in places where we don’t do all that time change nonsense.
Yep, this is a great description of the problem. As for running lights, many classes don't have them. But because the racing rules switch to navigation laws at sundown. Most evening races end at the exact moment of sundown (for that day) whether you have finished or not.
For many years we day-sailed E-scows on Lake Erie. Drove the motor boaters nuts to have a sailboat going as fast as them.
I'd be in favour of going one hour ahead of savings time 🙂 Sunrise would be at 9:45am tomorrow, but sunset would be at 6:40pm