Hey everyone,
I’ve built a 1000W RMS amplifier designed to drive a 2Ω load. I'm supplying it with ±80V rails. However, when I check the output voltage (without any load connected), the signal starts clipping at only 55V peak.
I was expecting a higher swing, given the rail voltage. Could this be due to a weak driver ? Would adding a predriver help improve the voltage swing?
Any insights or suggestions would be appreciated
I’ve built a 1000W RMS amplifier designed to drive a 2Ω load. I'm supplying it with ±80V rails. However, when I check the output voltage (without any load connected), the signal starts clipping at only 55V peak.
I was expecting a higher swing, given the rail voltage. Could this be due to a weak driver ? Would adding a predriver help improve the voltage swing?
Any insights or suggestions would be appreciated
Would some degeneration help there?Is it Pos clip? if so Q2 is limiting @ 60ma peak drive.
Actually R5 is liniting the current in Q3. It is a common current generator that should leave 6 mA.
That current should be amplified by Q10 and the output transistors. No load does not take much current so the signal out should be able to get near the 80 volts. The schematic seems to be correct so there is probably a faulty component or self oscillation.
Check if it gets hot when you drive it to the max output. That is an indication of self oscillation. With fast transistors lead lenght and drawing is critical so that cam be the reason.
That current should be amplified by Q10 and the output transistors. No load does not take much current so the signal out should be able to get near the 80 volts. The schematic seems to be correct so there is probably a faulty component or self oscillation.
Check if it gets hot when you drive it to the max output. That is an indication of self oscillation. With fast transistors lead lenght and drawing is critical so that cam be the reason.
It should see about 80v as drawn , possibly
Q3 or Q10 are defective
If you place a 10k resistor across Q3 it should hit 80v no load.
Q3 or Q10 are defective
If you place a 10k resistor across Q3 it should hit 80v no load.
No 10k there wouldn't change anything. Q10 will easilyi compensate that.
If you lift out Q10 it should be near + 80v out with no load.
Can you see anything of self oscillation? Does the amplifier get hot?
If you lift out Q10 it should be near + 80v out with no load.
Can you see anything of self oscillation? Does the amplifier get hot?
Check resistor values to make sure you didn’t accidentally put one in with the wrong multiplier so it’s off by a few orders of magnitude. Ask me how I know this can happen. 😆
Also check the current through your VAS by measuring the voltage at the lower leg of R5 and applying ohms law. I believe you should have about 5-10mA, which translates to 80-100*0.005=79.5V or thereabout. Put a scope on that same node. The current should not bog down when you’re running signal through it. You will see ripple, but it shouldn’t change in any meaningful way
Also check the current through your VAS by measuring the voltage at the lower leg of R5 and applying ohms law. I believe you should have about 5-10mA, which translates to 80-100*0.005=79.5V or thereabout. Put a scope on that same node. The current should not bog down when you’re running signal through it. You will see ripple, but it shouldn’t change in any meaningful way
no faulty component here , amp is working fine . Its giving >800w rms at 2 ohm load ,,, but only issue is why its not going above 55v even without any load ,Actually R5 is liniting the current in Q3. It is a common current generator that should leave 6 mA.
That current should be amplified by Q10 and the output transistors. No load does not take much current so the signal out should be able to get near the 80 volts. The schematic seems to be correct so there is probably a faulty component or self oscillation.
Check if it gets hot when you drive it to the max output. That is an indication of self oscillation. With fast transistors lead lenght and drawing is critical so that cam be the reason.
nothing is defective as the amp is working ,,,, only problem is its not going above 55v even without any loadIt should see about 80v as drawn , possibly
Q3 or Q10 are defective
If you place a 10k resistor across Q3 it should hit 80v no load.
current in the VAS is more then 6maCheck resistor values to make sure you didn’t accidentally put one in with the wrong multiplier so it’s off by a few orders of magnitude. Ask me how I know this can happen. 😆
Also check the current through your VAS by measuring the voltage at the lower leg of R5 and applying ohms law. I believe you should have about 5-10mA, which translates to 80-100*0.005=79.5V or thereabout. Put a scope on that same node. The current should not bog down when you’re running signal through it. You will see ripple, but it shouldn’t change in any meaningful way
you mean i should increase vas current ?Current limit by R5 not by R3. reduce it 47 ohm will ok. remember it drive for 8pcs power trans.
no the output transistor doesn't get hot , only Q3 and Q8 get warmNo 10k there wouldn't change anything. Q10 will easilyi compensate that.
If you lift out Q10 it should be near + 80v out with no load.
Can you see anything of self oscillation? Does the amplifier get hot?
Ok. Have you checked your power supply? What happens if you put a scope on the rails? Does it bog down?If it’s running fine at 800W, that’s kind of the only place left to look.no faulty component here , amp is working fine . Its giving >800w rms at 2 ohm load ,,, but only issue is why its not going above 55v even without any load ,
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