CD100/CD63 - History Of This Player?

[dantwomey]

You can refer to this ad for a Magnavox CD100/Marantz CD63 CD player.
Philips CD100 Magnavox Marantz CD 63 - CD player MINT Photo - Canuck Audio Mart

An odd looking player that I haven't seen before. Does anyone know alittle bit about the history of this player?

Regards,
Dan 😕

 

[dangus]

According to Philips, their very first:
Philips CD100 cdplayer - Marantzphilips.nl

And according to this YouTube demo, it "features 4X Oversampling Digital Filter with dual 14-bit DACs. Through oversampling it reached 16-bit. The DACs used in this cd player are the TDA-1540 chips."

 

[poynton]

This was the first commercially available CD player from Philips. early 1982 vintage. As it says in the ad., it was also sold as the Marantz CD63.

It is quite rare when badged Magnavox. The rarest is the Marantz gold version (usually black).

Is it worth c$600 ??? Possibly!

A Philips model is currently on EBAY UK for 800pounds!!!!!!


Andy




PS - great sounding player too !!


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[tiefbassuebertr]

Meridian MCD & MCD Pro

I have heard, this player also based to the CD-100:
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Meridian MCD cdplayer - Marantzphilips.nl
Stereophile: Meridian MCD & MCD Pro CD players

 

[davidsrsb]

A friend of mine had a Sony with the same 4x, 14bit chipset
It did not use conventional upsampling, but a linear interpolation between the cd data points.
The machine had a very rough sound. I had a look inside and found that it was using 741 class opamps in the output filter. I could see the slewing on my scope. I changed the opamps to TL072s and the waveform looked a lot better. The sound was much better. There was still a lot less low level detail than a modern design - the interpolation does not really give 16 bit resolution

 

[percival007]

............A Philips model is currently on EBAY UK for 800pounds!!!!!!......................

I doubt it will sell though.

One ended today with a starting bid of £300 which didn't sell. One did go last week for £330 though!

They are great players, despite being 14 bit they sound wonderfull, am sat here listening to one of my 14 bit CD-104's and it sounds superb. I get my CD-100 out only now and again to make sure it works but if i want that 14 bit sound the 104's suffice.

I am not sure Sony ever produced a 14 bit machine, davidsrsb. Thier first attempt being the 16 bit CDP-101 (which i don't think sounds as good as the Philips).

It is my undersatnding that Philips tried to get ahead in production of thier first player so made them 14 bits before the 'RED BOOK' had been 'finalised' (pardon the CD pun!). Once 16 bits was decided upon, they came up with 'Over-Sampling' which made them able to 'cope' with the 16 bit discs and cope they do, very well.

See here for a very interesting read:-
Philips Research - History of the CD - The beginning

Cheers all,

Percy.

 

[tiefbassuebertr]

The first showed compact disc player (prototype) was the so called "Pinkeltje" from 1979 - go to
Philips Pinkeltje - Marantzphilips.nl

I want to have photo gallerie and the schematic of the appropriate TTL glue logic prototype decoder/servo unit. (size approximately than three personal computer towers). I have never see this one.

 

[percival007]

I don't think anyone outside Philips has!!

Apparently on the plane over to show it off to Sony it had its own seat and was under a cover during the demonstration so as not to give away the true size of all the electronics!!

 

[Miniwatt]

I remember seeing that one in '82 in our local store. I was mesmerized by that spinning magic silver disc -I was 9 at the time..😀

 

[davidsrsb]

I'm not too sure about being a Sony, it was in a Sony system, but it was this odd 14 bit chipset. The machine was a conventional case, nothing like this amazing CD100

 

[tiefbassuebertr]

I'm not too sure about being a Sony, it was in a Sony system, but it was this odd 14 bit chipset. The machine was a conventional case, nothing like this amazing CD100

I think you mean the CDP-101 with very thick remote control RM-101 - about
Filmi Sangeet - Film Songs and the year 1982
and attachement.
In the attachement additional the first sony portable compact disc player, the D-5

also this URL could be of interest:
The Digital Revolution

 

[poynton]

I was in Singapore when the first cd player came out in 1982.

I heard it demonstrated in several hifi shops and after a lot of haggling (well, what else do you do in Singapore?) I bought a CD100. Actually, my wife did!!! It had WAG appeal in spades!

I now have a mint condition gold Marantz CD63 and love it .


Andy


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[percival007]

.............I think you mean the CDP-101.......................

But the CDP-101 uses a CX20017 16bit D/A converter see here

http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheets/120/495279_DS.pdf

As far as i know it was only Philips and Philips clones of thier early machines which had 14 bit DACs.

Cheers,

Percy.

 

[tiefbassuebertr]

Yes, I think so, too.
CD 104 philips TDA
http://www.lampizator.eu/lampizator/LINKS AND DOWNLOADS/DATAMINING/tda 1540.pdf

 

[percival007]

Ah yes, the CD-104, i love this player, i agree with 'Mr. Lampizator' it is the finest built player there ever was, it can be picked up by its very substantial tray!!

I am not sure that removing the Oversampling would improve things though (heresy on this site i know!!) as these players sound really, really nice as standard.

I have the first CD discs ever commercially available and when played on a CD-100 or CD-104 they sound just fine. I am often puzzled why the first CD's were thought of as 'harsh' etc, perhaps it was the early 80's amps and speakers which made it so?

Percy.

 

[davidsrsb]

It would not be the first time that a model was marketed with two different chipsets inside during its lifetime
The one I sorted was a TDA1540