what is the avg burning time required for the 2.2uf mundorf silver gold oil cap at the intput of a solid stage amp.
Are these caps worth it when comes to high fidelity sound? I read reviews but havent listened to any of these Mundorf caps..
Are these caps worth it when comes to high fidelity sound? I read reviews but havent listened to any of these Mundorf caps..
No burn in
if you dont like them first up then nothing will change no mater how long you use them
they are a good cap if you can afford them then go for it
Sheafer
if you dont like them first up then nothing will change no mater how long you use them
they are a good cap if you can afford them then go for it
Sheafer
I have not tried the silver-gold oil ones, but the plain supreme, the silver-oil and the plain silver-gold ones needed about 50-60 hours to reveal their full potential.
I was pretty happy with them, until I tried the Russian FT3s...
Never looked back...
I was pretty happy with them, until I tried the Russian FT3s...
Never looked back...
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I just spotted this thread having over 10k in modoing hours without question
A Munforf Supreme, or Silver oil the latter even longer at least 100 hours just yo Start opening up. To fully refine 3-400 hours. Claims of 50 is way off.gor a regular Solen cap maybe.
Munforf double windings, take more time. Teflon caps even more.
A Munforf Supreme, or Silver oil the latter even longer at least 100 hours just yo Start opening up. To fully refine 3-400 hours. Claims of 50 is way off.gor a regular Solen cap maybe.
Munforf double windings, take more time. Teflon caps even more.
It is rumoured that Mundorf is going to offer a new line of capacitors soon, called Snake Oil Silver. They'll burn in in just 8 hours and 15 minutes.
Best regards!
Best regards!
If you can actually hear a cap burning in then you have the wrong value cap. In the case of a coupling capacitor this means the value is too small. Sadly, myth is always more fun than truth.
Oven to 250 degree then baking for 3 hours. afterwards throw it into dust bin and buy standard MKP ... 😉
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Even if it was possible to 'burn-in' an input capacitor .......
How would one do it ?
The voltage across it would be in the region of 10's of mV at most.
What is the voltage rating of a Mundorf silver/gold/oil capacitor ? 150v ?
So the applied voltage is highly unlikely to have any effect on the capacitor.
Andy
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Even if it was possible to 'burn-in' an input capacitor .......
How would one do it ?
The voltage across it would be in the region of 10's of mV at most.
What is the voltage rating of a Mundorf silver/gold/oil capacitor ? 150v ?
So the applied voltage is highly unlikely to have any effect on the capacitor.
Andy
Burning-in capacitors and other components most likely is audiophoolish blah-blah, isn't it?
Best regards!
Best regards!
Burning in does exist, but applies to listener.
Best is to play some music, loop it so it self repeats forever, and listen carefully to detect any sound difference, with all senses focused on it, and doing nothing else, which could unfocus listener and contaminate the experiment.
Burn in is achieved when listener can´t stand it any longer and confesses that, yes, he killed JFK or anything else ...... or the lighter admission that *now* he detects some difference, will everybody stop the d*mned test and give him a glass of water, some food, or just let him take a nap?
Best is to play some music, loop it so it self repeats forever, and listen carefully to detect any sound difference, with all senses focused on it, and doing nothing else, which could unfocus listener and contaminate the experiment.
Burn in is achieved when listener can´t stand it any longer and confesses that, yes, he killed JFK or anything else ...... or the lighter admission that *now* he detects some difference, will everybody stop the d*mned test and give him a glass of water, some food, or just let him take a nap?
Any "burn in" effect is most likely your auditory system/brain adjusting, not the cap changing.
Note: Exception is AL Electrolytic cap which has been unbiased for a prolonged period of time and is reforming.
Note: Exception is AL Electrolytic cap which has been unbiased for a prolonged period of time and is reforming.
Burn in time is directly related to component cost. The larger the price the longer it takes to achieve nirvana.
Rich men cant enter the kingdom of god
So insane pricing is actually good for the soul........
Rich men cant enter the kingdom of god
So insane pricing is actually good for the soul........
Why can't the supplier do something to justify the high price by running a music signal through the cap for 50 hours before they send it to you? They could then advertise 'pre-burned in - just solder into your amp and enjoy your music straight away'. 🙄
Ah! Silly me - it could be the wrong type of music! If you are a classical fan, a cap burned in using heavy metal could create sonic disaster!
Ah! Silly me - it could be the wrong type of music! If you are a classical fan, a cap burned in using heavy metal could create sonic disaster!
Ah but the fresh solder joint also needs 40 - 140 hrs burn in time too (obviously depending on solder cost).
An ear syringe job on the NHS might be a better option for some UK based members.
An ear syringe job on the NHS might be a better option for some UK based members.
Ah! Silly me - it could be the wrong type of music! If you are a classical fan, a cap burned in using heavy metal could create sonic disaster!
Avoid heavy metal caps, a tinfoil one works just as well and is cheaper and lighter to wear.
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