Got a friend with contacts with a transformer producer
Plan to build THE BEST 300B amp
Anyone having the good ideas ?
Plan to build THE BEST 300B amp
Anyone having the good ideas ?
Hi, and welcome to the forum!
Apparently you do already have the transformer winder, but are his transformers as good as THE BEST 300B OPT in the world?
I am curious what other people's opinion is about your question!
Erik
Apparently you do already have the transformer winder, but are his transformers as good as THE BEST 300B OPT in the world?
I am curious what other people's opinion is about your question!
Erik
Personally, I dont think there is such a thing as a 'Best Schematic for 300B'.....
Each designer will think that his design is the 'best'
What is best??--For you, one design may sound 'Best' but same design to me,- may sound crap!
Too subjective an issue....
As to Transformer winding/construction, a Good S.E. Output Transformer is VERY different from a power-transformer--not trying to dampen your enthusiasm, but a Co used to making power/mains transformers may have no clue how to make a Good SE Transformer--they are completely different....
Each designer will think that his design is the 'best'
What is best??--For you, one design may sound 'Best' but same design to me,- may sound crap!
Too subjective an issue....
As to Transformer winding/construction, a Good S.E. Output Transformer is VERY different from a power-transformer--not trying to dampen your enthusiasm, but a Co used to making power/mains transformers may have no clue how to make a Good SE Transformer--they are completely different....

You don't state if you need push pull because of the power factor.
So we'll assume SET.
Best I've heard out of all the things I've tried out is 10Y into 10Y into 300b. If you can get good transformers, then get something like two LL1660/10mA - one after the first 10y and one after the second.
you will be all trsanformer coupled and clean as hell. Detail with surprise you. the timbre of instruments will astonish you. The delicacy of the treble will enchant you.
You won't need to go roaming in Slottsparken at nights - you will just stay at home with an insane grin on your face. Gradually you will cease going out at all. You will forget about being samfundsbevisst. You will forget about samfund in general. You will be discovered in 70 years time still grinning.
andy
So we'll assume SET.
Best I've heard out of all the things I've tried out is 10Y into 10Y into 300b. If you can get good transformers, then get something like two LL1660/10mA - one after the first 10y and one after the second.
you will be all trsanformer coupled and clean as hell. Detail with surprise you. the timbre of instruments will astonish you. The delicacy of the treble will enchant you.
You won't need to go roaming in Slottsparken at nights - you will just stay at home with an insane grin on your face. Gradually you will cease going out at all. You will forget about being samfundsbevisst. You will forget about samfund in general. You will be discovered in 70 years time still grinning.
andy
I don't know what would constitute the best, but here are three intellectually interesting designs that are not just a 6SN7 SRPP cap coupled to a 300B.
http://electra-print.com/300bdrd.php
http://nutshellhifi.com/IT-Triode-Amp.gif
http://tubelab.com/TubelabSE.htm
http://electra-print.com/300bdrd.php
http://nutshellhifi.com/IT-Triode-Amp.gif
http://tubelab.com/TubelabSE.htm
Best I've heard out of all the things I've tried out is 10Y into 10Y into 300b. If you can get good transformers, then get something like two LL1660/10mA - one after the first 10y and one after the second.
andy [/B]
Andy do you happen to have a simplified schematic? I've collected my stash of 210 tubes and want to try this exact configuration. What did you use for plate / bias voltages, etc? OPT impedance suggestions? 3K, 5K? Lundahl as well?
I never heard a 300B amp I liked until I heard one with an Onetics OPT.... it sang like a songbird 😀
Who retails Onetics though? 😕
Cheers!
Who retails Onetics though? 😕
Cheers!
Geek said:I never heard a 300B amp I liked until I heard one with an Onetics OPT.... it sang like a songbird 😀
Who retails Onetics though? 😕
Cheers!
ask Yves for right iron drek ........
😉
Zen Mod said:ask Yves for right iron drek ........
😉
For those that don't know his site:
http://www.dissident-audio.com
Cheers!
Geek said:Who retails Onetics though? 😕
Why Onetics does....call Bud Purvine and order direct, that is how you get Onetics. He is a good guy to chat with too.
Josh
Bud is bionic. He's a philosopher with clever fingers. I use his stuff. It's very good and well priced, and I feel good about money going to him.
In response to previous question - I don't have any handy schematics, but will be building a SE 300b shortly so will look at it then
andy
In response to previous question - I don't have any handy schematics, but will be building a SE 300b shortly so will look at it then
andy
yop ,Bud is the one to deal with. I have a pair of his entry 5k OPTS for 45 Tube and they are great sounding OPTS .Full ,organic ,natural sound .
I gave up idea of building "the best" long time ago😉 Even if you use the best components your chances are slim .
I've read some nice post recently that it's fairly easy (if not cheap)even for newbie to build good/very good sounding amp but to build great/ exceptional one is a totally different kettle of fish.
Best of luck and regards, L
I gave up idea of building "the best" long time ago😉 Even if you use the best components your chances are slim .
I've read some nice post recently that it's fairly easy (if not cheap)even for newbie to build good/very good sounding amp but to build great/ exceptional one is a totally different kettle of fish.
Best of luck and regards, L
the current production (George) Wright Sound gear uses O'netics output iron (and power xfmr as well, I think) in the Mono7 - the first 300B SET to change my mind about that device.
FWIW, that's the same design that Greg referred to above
FWIW, that's the same design that Greg referred to above
With all due respect, maybe that fact that the two people recommending a certain type of transformers as the only ones they have heard that makes them like 300B amps should suggest to the OP that these are actually not appropriate. That is, lots of people like 300B amps. You guys, it would seem, do not. Presumably, someone wanting to build a 300B design wants to do so because they like what they have heard from the tube in other contexts, not because what they have heard from the tube in other contexts is terrible. Thus, logically they presumably want some transformer to make their amp sound like 300B's generally do, not transformers that sound different in some way.
Now, I have nothing at all against O'Netics. I've never used them, and for all I know they are indeed the best transformers around. I'm just saying the arguments being made don't make sense.
Now, I have nothing at all against O'Netics. I've never used them, and for all I know they are indeed the best transformers around. I'm just saying the arguments being made don't make sense.
Bending your head around how Loftin & White made
power supply noise and cathode feedback disappear
might be worth the effort. Can you handle a challenge?
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123211&highlight=
Just don't make the mistake of asking for help.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
power supply noise and cathode feedback disappear
might be worth the effort. Can you handle a challenge?
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123211&highlight=
Just don't make the mistake of asking for help.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
dsavitsk said:...recommending a certain type of transformers as the only ones they have heard that makes them like 300B amps....
Indeed. It does seem a bit odd. However Bud does build a great transformer. =)
The schematic I posted above is the best amp I have ever heard. (FWIW). It was a great amp with the Tango budget iron, sublime with the much more expensive iron. Still the same amp, tho. Just better with a better OPT.
Partial to this one...after modifying to get op of driver to 12ma.
http://gallery.audioasylum.com/cgi/gi.mpl?u=45887&f=Gemini_Mono.jpg&self=897459538
http://gallery.audioasylum.com/cgi/gi.mpl?u=45887&f=Gemini_Mono.jpg&self=897459538
JoshK said:
Why Onetics does....call Bud Purvine and order direct, that is how you get Onetics. He is a good guy to chat with too.
Josh
So how does one contact Onetics to order transformers?
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