I'm building a multi-effect box and I'm still puzzled about routing. I'm trying to route signals so that each 'module' can be by-passable. Figure A is basically my current set up and the problem is the output of the reverb is feeding back in to itself via the EQ direct output line.
Someone suggested an opamp mixer. But if it's done like figure B, won't there be inverted and non inverted signals mixing together?
Or am I missing it altogether /: ?
TIA
Someone suggested an opamp mixer. But if it's done like figure B, won't there be inverted and non inverted signals mixing together?
Or am I missing it altogether /: ?
TIA
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If you are using standard Boss type effect units, they all fit in series and you choose where to place them.
Sorry I was not clear... this is a single, multi-effect unit that I am building. All the sections are within the unit as circuits. I'm hoping to mix them internally with the same type of versatility as having separate pedals though.
Think "op amp summing amplifier", for mixer.
Here are the classic National Semi application notes with the schematics you need:
http://www.ti.com/lit/an/snoa621c/snoa621c.pdf
http://www.ti.com/lit/an/snla140b/snla140b.pdf
Just remember that the schematics don't show the mandatory decoupling capacitors from power pins to ground. Use 10 uF electrolytic in parallel with 0.1 uF X7R ceramic, from every op amp power pin to ground, with the 0.1 uF connected right at the power pin (not 3 mm away).
Here are the classic National Semi application notes with the schematics you need:
http://www.ti.com/lit/an/snoa621c/snoa621c.pdf
http://www.ti.com/lit/an/snla140b/snla140b.pdf
Just remember that the schematics don't show the mandatory decoupling capacitors from power pins to ground. Use 10 uF electrolytic in parallel with 0.1 uF X7R ceramic, from every op amp power pin to ground, with the 0.1 uF connected right at the power pin (not 3 mm away).
Thanks Gootee,
I'm thinking along those lines. My issue with the summing amplifier is, as far as I know, the inverting of the wave and rectifying that down the line.
I found this from Mr. Stevenson's site: Paul In The Lab: Buffered Y Splitter Stripboard Veroboard
I'm running a bipolar supply so I figure nix the voltage divider and add an extra opamp for a 3 way splitter. Here's my second idea.
But I won't pretend... this is my first build and I've been learning as I go... I appreciate the feedback.
I'm thinking along those lines. My issue with the summing amplifier is, as far as I know, the inverting of the wave and rectifying that down the line.
I found this from Mr. Stevenson's site: Paul In The Lab: Buffered Y Splitter Stripboard Veroboard
I'm running a bipolar supply so I figure nix the voltage divider and add an extra opamp for a 3 way splitter. Here's my second idea.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
But I won't pretend... this is my first build and I've been learning as I go... I appreciate the feedback.
I went ahead and wired it up with the second idea and it seems to work pretty well! One issue is the eq switch pops when flipped... but the reverb and dry switches do not pop. Echo is just going to ground for now because that part of the circuit is not built yet.
I'm going to tweak it a bit and see what may come.
I'm going to tweak it a bit and see what may come.
Seems like that should work fine. No summer for OUT? It seems like you would at least need a largish resistor to ground if nothing else is connected to the output, to make a passive summer. You might also need an R to ground for the preamp outputs to sum. Or it might need an active summing circuit.
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Active usually allows you to have better-controlled impedances, so everything works better. High input impedance and low output impedance usually mean fewer unpleasant surprises, with easy-to-predict loads and levels, and, frequency responses. It's also just more flexible, making it easier to design with.
That makes sense. One problem I notice with the setup that I put together is gain drops pretty significantly. The other thing is the eq has a tendency to become harsh and feedback. If you're interested you can hear how it sounds the way it is.
The Ghost Echo - Spring Reverb plus EQ Demo - YouTube
I'm going to keep working on it to get a better blend.
The Ghost Echo - Spring Reverb plus EQ Demo - YouTube
I'm going to keep working on it to get a better blend.
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