Hi Jan,
I really like your Mini EL84 pp circuit, can you tell me what value of feedback resisitor you settled on. I can't read your website page about it but would like to know more, can you explain the circuit in english please.
I really like your Mini EL84 pp circuit, can you tell me what value of feedback resisitor you settled on. I can't read your website page about it but would like to know more, can you explain the circuit in english please.
Hi,
The design is very simple and more or less a class A design. It moves into class AB, but not far into AB, so if you are looking for plenty of power this is not the way to go. 😉
The local shunt feedback is ~9dB and will lower the output resistance of the EL84. Global NFB is approx 10dB set by a 1k2 feedback resistor (I have to check this out, I’m not at home now..)
I achieved a damping factor of 8 (Zo=1 ohm) with 10dB gNFB. The distortion figures are also quite low, 3rd harmonic <0.3% and higher order harmonic less than 0.1% at half power output.
The amplifier sounds very transparent and does not have any dominant sound signature.
After some experimenting I found the best sonic working point for the EL84s to be ~41mA cathode current: Rk=2k2/10W and Vk=90V. The cathode voltage (Vk) is adjusted by trimming the CCS.
(I will upload the updated schematic later today).
Jan E Veiset
NO-6600
The design is very simple and more or less a class A design. It moves into class AB, but not far into AB, so if you are looking for plenty of power this is not the way to go. 😉
The local shunt feedback is ~9dB and will lower the output resistance of the EL84. Global NFB is approx 10dB set by a 1k2 feedback resistor (I have to check this out, I’m not at home now..)
I achieved a damping factor of 8 (Zo=1 ohm) with 10dB gNFB. The distortion figures are also quite low, 3rd harmonic <0.3% and higher order harmonic less than 0.1% at half power output.
The amplifier sounds very transparent and does not have any dominant sound signature.
After some experimenting I found the best sonic working point for the EL84s to be ~41mA cathode current: Rk=2k2/10W and Vk=90V. The cathode voltage (Vk) is adjusted by trimming the CCS.
(I will upload the updated schematic later today).
Jan E Veiset
NO-6600
Here is the current schematic for the miniPP:
Jan E Veiset
NO-6600
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Jan E Veiset
NO-6600
Key figures:
Max Po: 7V rms into 8 ohm. (40Hz - 25kHz)
Frequency response (1W, -3dB) 22Hz - 40kHz
DF: 8 (Zo = 1 ohm)
THD: Less then 0.3% (5V rms output)
Distortion pattern 400Hz input (5V rms output):
But if you are looking for power, take a walk to SY's red light district: EL84 in pentode mode with very stiff cathode bias is the way to go for some real good spanking. 😀
Jan E Veiset
NO-6600
Max Po: 7V rms into 8 ohm. (40Hz - 25kHz)
Frequency response (1W, -3dB) 22Hz - 40kHz
DF: 8 (Zo = 1 ohm)
THD: Less then 0.3% (5V rms output)
Distortion pattern 400Hz input (5V rms output):
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
But if you are looking for power, take a walk to SY's red light district: EL84 in pentode mode with very stiff cathode bias is the way to go for some real good spanking. 😀
Jan E Veiset
NO-6600
Hello Jan,
Thank you for the updaye on your circuit. I'm not looking for a lot of power. Can you tell me the power out in watts please.
I also like Sy's circuit but I'm not sure if I can fit the led board into my space.
Thanks again for your time.
Thank you for the updaye on your circuit. I'm not looking for a lot of power. Can you tell me the power out in watts please.
I also like Sy's circuit but I'm not sure if I can fit the led board into my space.
Thanks again for your time.
Hi,
Power output = Vo*Vo/R. If Vo = 7V rms, Po = 6.1W
I think that is close to what's possible to achieve in class A in this circuit.
(max theoretical class A Po = (2xIq)^2 x Rl/4 = (2x0,04)^2x8000/4 = 6.4W)
Jan E Veiset
NO-6600
Power output = Vo*Vo/R. If Vo = 7V rms, Po = 6.1W
I think that is close to what's possible to achieve in class A in this circuit.
(max theoretical class A Po = (2xIq)^2 x Rl/4 = (2x0,04)^2x8000/4 = 6.4W)
Jan E Veiset
NO-6600
Does anyone have this schematic to repost, or better yet upload to diyaudio. I shall really appreciate lt. It is not nice to discover all these dead old links.Here is the current schematic for the miniPP:
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.[/URL]
Jan E Veiset
NO-6600
https://web.archive.org/It is not nice to discover all these dead old links.
www.veiset.net/miniPP/mini_PP_20060710.gif
https://web.archive.org/web/20130531151807/www.veiset.net/miniPP/mini_PP_20060710.gif

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