At ISE 2025, FaitalPro released its new beast 21XL3000.
The 6,5" CCAW coil 3000W/6000W behemoth.
Normalyzed motor force of ~313 puts it in the high end class with all these new B&Cs, 18Sounds, RCFs and such.
Looking forward to reviews and use cases.
Now, birds on the trees are chirping that we might:
A) See 4Ohm version, because this will be really difficult to feed with mortal-grade amps.
B) See 18" version. That would be way too awesome. I praised FaitalPro crew to them myself and asked for tad longer voice coil (to add my voice to that idea if it already exists, no way they are going to listen just to ME 🙂 ).
If that is the case, I am considering to not follow up on my oncoming 18" purchases in the name of this.
The price seems to be somewhat higher, but still realistically competitive with quite some competition being more expensive already.
Anyone also interested and waiting to put it into some sick design?
Preliminary datasheet here:
https://faitalpro.com/highlights/2025/21XL3000/files/21XL3000 - Preliminary Datasheet.pdf
Should be available towards the summer.
The 6,5" CCAW coil 3000W/6000W behemoth.
Normalyzed motor force of ~313 puts it in the high end class with all these new B&Cs, 18Sounds, RCFs and such.
Looking forward to reviews and use cases.
Now, birds on the trees are chirping that we might:
A) See 4Ohm version, because this will be really difficult to feed with mortal-grade amps.
B) See 18" version. That would be way too awesome. I praised FaitalPro crew to them myself and asked for tad longer voice coil (to add my voice to that idea if it already exists, no way they are going to listen just to ME 🙂 ).
If that is the case, I am considering to not follow up on my oncoming 18" purchases in the name of this.
The price seems to be somewhat higher, but still realistically competitive with quite some competition being more expensive already.
Anyone also interested and waiting to put it into some sick design?
Preliminary datasheet here:
https://faitalpro.com/highlights/2025/21XL3000/files/21XL3000 - Preliminary Datasheet.pdf
Should be available towards the summer.
great power and efficiency but nothing special in terms of excursion capability, in other words a typical prosound subwoofer, just slightly louder.
what most enthusiasts want is for a prosound company to make a subwoofer that digs deeper not one that goes louder. from that perspective the Eminence 21" may actually be better than this Faital.
and Faital is not known for competitive pricing - i wouldn't be surprised if this driver is like $1,500.
also i think Faital is getting carried away with their basket designs. these would be too fancy even for car audio / audiophile market. do they know they are a prosound OEM ?
what most enthusiasts want is for a prosound company to make a subwoofer that digs deeper not one that goes louder. from that perspective the Eminence 21" may actually be better than this Faital.
and Faital is not known for competitive pricing - i wouldn't be surprised if this driver is like $1,500.
also i think Faital is getting carried away with their basket designs. these would be too fancy even for car audio / audiophile market. do they know they are a prosound OEM ?
Ha! Indeed. I don´t think we are seeing anything mainstream going over 20mm one way soon. For all the reasons and more:
1) Doppler distortion
2) THD changes by nonlinearity issues, box volume change wise by cone movement.
3) Moving that 500g cone 50x in a second these distances indeed is not going to be efficient anyways.
4) Once it is technologically feasible, it is better compromise to generate the SPL more by the motor force coupled to acoustical circuit than just cone displacement alone.
Indeed with 40mm coil this driver is beneath Eminence NSW6021, B&C Speakers 21IPAL and few others in certain aspects. No denial. Though it seems to be a value option inbetween the lower tier products, making it exciting option still, with something new in its sleeve. In my use case I burned the 21DS115 a bit, with this driver it might not occur (as it didn with obsoleted RCF LF21N551).
Certainly as mentioned with NSW6021, for many people, this is not it. I don´t bother to pretend it is.
For the price, I saw the preliminary pricing, and official price is close to that one mentioned, street price at the moment is heading to be nearly half.
I think it is the orange elements that make it look fancier than it really is. Though it is nowhere near Audiobahn subs, Some Sundown audio ones, as far as I know MTX went full on crazy few times, Rockford Fosgate overshoots sometimes, and some lesser products not only from Sony and Pioneer put very elaborate covers on top of their magnets "just to look more hefty and serious" than what they really are. Could couple grams and little design be shaved off? sure. How does it hurt the speaker? I don´t know, for me not at all.
Yet another serious bass horn or midbass if in a BR, driver.
284.6 L/1.44 = 197.64 L
30*1.56 = 46.8 Hz Fb
Ap = Sd