I’ll never understand the self-joy someone gets by murdering an innocent wild animal for their own selfish fetish. Go out into the woods and watch the animal all you want. Enjoy seeing him in the nature environment that he is a part of.
But don’t murder him for your stupid and selfish entertainment.
And what’s even worse in this story is the animal was murdered with a bow and arrow rather than a rifle, so it probably suffered even more before it died. This is disgusting.
Sorry but I’m not buying the argument that it’s OK to kill these magnificent animals as long as you eat them. That’s nonsense. You can get all the meat you want by simply purchasing it at a store. People murder them so that they can hang a disgusting trophy on their wall. It has absolutely nothing to do with using them for food.
Leave the wild animals alone for God’s sake.
https://www.fox4news.com/news/ohio-hunter-bags-monster-20-point-buck-had-eluded-him-years
But don’t murder him for your stupid and selfish entertainment.
And what’s even worse in this story is the animal was murdered with a bow and arrow rather than a rifle, so it probably suffered even more before it died. This is disgusting.
Sorry but I’m not buying the argument that it’s OK to kill these magnificent animals as long as you eat them. That’s nonsense. You can get all the meat you want by simply purchasing it at a store. People murder them so that they can hang a disgusting trophy on their wall. It has absolutely nothing to do with using them for food.
Leave the wild animals alone for God’s sake.
https://www.fox4news.com/news/ohio-hunter-bags-monster-20-point-buck-had-eluded-him-years
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I remember a teacher asking my middle school class to share their viewpoints on hunting. I was the only male who opposed hunting and killing for sport, whatever that means. I did, however, fully support legal firearm ownership for recreation.
Today, I still cannot connect with whatever experience or headspace draws people to stalk and slaughter animals, but I’m sure most of my peers from then to now would fail to understand why I would rather build my own audio equipment than just buy it.
Deer are a daily sight here and I find watching them to be a bit enchanting. I knew a man that owned a transport company and was married to a doctor. The inside of their house displayed trophies from his African hunts. The thought of putting the head of a big buck on a wall doesn’t suspend the moment or do anything positive for me. To each their own, I guess.
Today, I still cannot connect with whatever experience or headspace draws people to stalk and slaughter animals, but I’m sure most of my peers from then to now would fail to understand why I would rather build my own audio equipment than just buy it.
Deer are a daily sight here and I find watching them to be a bit enchanting. I knew a man that owned a transport company and was married to a doctor. The inside of their house displayed trophies from his African hunts. The thought of putting the head of a big buck on a wall doesn’t suspend the moment or do anything positive for me. To each their own, I guess.
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I love firearms, but it's more of a hobby, like audio, photography etc.
Murdering any animal just for the sake of saying I did it, is reprehensible.
Those that do so, should themselves be 'marked' as 'free to hunt and kill'.
The have been several sci fi and other types of movies in this line. I enjoy those.
I should add, I also understand the need to cull feral and invasive pests.
But this is not, 'murder for fun' as is the case with the above mentioned . . . . . . individual....
Murdering any animal just for the sake of saying I did it, is reprehensible.
Those that do so, should themselves be 'marked' as 'free to hunt and kill'.
The have been several sci fi and other types of movies in this line. I enjoy those.
I should add, I also understand the need to cull feral and invasive pests.
But this is not, 'murder for fun' as is the case with the above mentioned . . . . . . individual....
I like to think the average person can be sensible enough with things they choose to do, however there may be more to it. Earlier this year we had a disturbed individual go on a stabbing spree in a shopping mall.
After that there were a couple of minor copycat incidents. The public feared this had become the new normal and we had to get used to it.
It didn't. Once it got out of the news things went back to what they were before. Out of sight, out of mind, methinks.
Hunting is more humane than factory meat production. Purchasing pre cut meat at a store only serves to isolate you from the realities of what it took to produce it.
Worked for a USA company and have heard all the possible reasons that guns are cool, fantastic, suitable for children & teenagers, self defense, preserving wild life, sports, open carrying works preventive etc. 🙂 Some even took care to have personal involvement in culling wildlife in Africa and Alaska! That we should do the same and enjoy the very same benefits of a happy & peaceful society full of guns.
These facts most of the times silence such discussions directly. Facts don't lie, facts don't have an opinion either, facts are not fake news and facts are mostly replied to with a Godwin:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
These facts most of the times silence such discussions directly. Facts don't lie, facts don't have an opinion either, facts are not fake news and facts are mostly replied to with a Godwin:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
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I have a big problem with this part:
And not only meats, I highly recommend at the very least trying to grow a portion of your own food if only to get a proper idea of what it involves.
I suggest you start with trying to make cheese, can be done in the comfort of your own home, see what you can do to get the waste down to 0 in the process.
Respect the food and where it comes from.
You can not buy "respect" at the supermarket.
If you have any interest in animal welfare, you should definitely raise your own animals and process them for meat to ensure that they are well taken care of and that everything including the consumption is done with a silent respect for the animals sacrifice.
And not only meats, I highly recommend at the very least trying to grow a portion of your own food if only to get a proper idea of what it involves.
I suggest you start with trying to make cheese, can be done in the comfort of your own home, see what you can do to get the waste down to 0 in the process.
Respect the food and where it comes from.
You can not buy "respect" at the supermarket.
Killing is the one thing everything on this planet has to do to survive. I believe I heard that somewhere recently (Yellowstone).
Eventually there will be groups bitching and moaning about how immoral it is to eat meat or even vegetables when they come out of a replicator.
Eventually there will be groups bitching and moaning about how immoral it is to eat meat or even vegetables when they come out of a replicator.
There are certainly different levels of the hunting experience. Having said that, I certainly don't agree with some of them. I do agree with some of the families out here in Wyoming that certainly do hunt for the meat, and the process is laborious to cut the meat and ready it for the freezer. The people that I know don't do anything fancy. It is just a fact of part of the effort that it takes to survive for some.
Good Lord, go to a slaughterhouse even once and tell me that it doesn't change your view of what you have ordered at the local restaurant.
Good Lord, go to a slaughterhouse even once and tell me that it doesn't change your view of what you have ordered at the local restaurant.
Here in Finland there are far too many white-tailed deers and roe deers former of which is even an invasive alien species here. They cause lots of damage to home owners as they eat almost everything people like to grow in their gardens. Hunting clubs feed them in the winter to let them survive the harsh climate but don't do enough hunting to contain the numbers. Wolves and bobcats do a much better job at that. So naturally these same hunting clubs seek permissions to kill as many wolves and bobcats as they can.
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In my state, the deer herd is out of control, and you only need to drive a few miles on almost any road to find the carcasses of ones that were hit by cars. Sadly, a fair percentage are not killed immediately but limp off into the woods to die slowly. Through ticks, they are vectors for some rather serious diseases for humans, i.e., Lyme disease, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and alarmingly, alpha-gal.
We are in a low cycle for natural predators right now, and while nobody likes wolves or coyotes in their backyard, a balance needs to be restored. People in my area are hunting far less than they used to, and I expect that is also a contributing factor to the explosion of the herd population.
I have lived here all of my life, and when I was young and even into my early 30s, it was uncommon to see a deer. Just this morning, there were four in my backyard!
We are in a low cycle for natural predators right now, and while nobody likes wolves or coyotes in their backyard, a balance needs to be restored. People in my area are hunting far less than they used to, and I expect that is also a contributing factor to the explosion of the herd population.
I have lived here all of my life, and when I was young and even into my early 30s, it was uncommon to see a deer. Just this morning, there were four in my backyard!
Another good reason to kill all those disease ridden deer. Maybe the prospering “defense industry” can come up with deer seeking missiles to restore balance in nature.
Yes, ticks are spreading alarmingly fast. Last summer I got 3 tick bites but avoided diseases.
May sound cruel but I was quite happy to find a deer hind leg in front of my garage this week. Probably the local fox left it there. Now I know for certain that there is one deer less in the neighbourhood.
May sound cruel but I was quite happy to find a deer hind leg in front of my garage this week. Probably the local fox left it there. Now I know for certain that there is one deer less in the neighbourhood.
Did not know what a tick was till about 10 years ago. Now I am bitten by them in my own garden.
No deer around but we do have red squirrels stealing nuts. Our nuts.
Five or six years ago my buxus suddenly looked awful. A new animal called box-tree moth messing up buxus. My buxus.
Steinmarder came. They cut rubber hoses of outside parked cars. When they enter a hens den they kill all chickens. My car and my neighbours chickens.
Things are happening 😊 We should kill ticks, squirrels, box-tree moths and Steinmarder. Maybe wasps too.
No deer around but we do have red squirrels stealing nuts. Our nuts.
Five or six years ago my buxus suddenly looked awful. A new animal called box-tree moth messing up buxus. My buxus.
Steinmarder came. They cut rubber hoses of outside parked cars. When they enter a hens den they kill all chickens. My car and my neighbours chickens.
Things are happening 😊 We should kill ticks, squirrels, box-tree moths and Steinmarder. Maybe wasps too.
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Everyone buy the thread starter is talking about guns - he used a bow, which makes it way more awesome. We are built for hunting. The games and sports we enjoy are related to using skills useful for hunting. Just like a dog loves chasing a ball.
Hunting with a bow is way more difficult and way more satisfying and admirable to achieve. Taking down a large animal with a bow means getting close and hitting him with great accuracy.
The life of animals is chaotic and their deaths are mostly brutal. Hunters probably feel a stronger real connection to animals than ordinary people.
Hunting with a bow is way more difficult and way more satisfying and admirable to achieve. Taking down a large animal with a bow means getting close and hitting him with great accuracy.
The life of animals is chaotic and their deaths are mostly brutal. Hunters probably feel a stronger real connection to animals than ordinary people.
Deer have very few natural predators on the East Coast. Most of anything keeping them in check nowadays is either the hunters or car grills. I see a dead dear about every mile on I-476 and I-76. Given the changing views on gun ownership and hunting, there are even fewer hunters to cull herds, leading to overgrazing and starvation. Then you got Chronic Wasting Disease and other diseases going on.
Most hunters take the carcass and have it processed at a local butcher where everything gets used. Often times, excess goes to community food banks.
As pretty as some view them, deer have become rats on stilts. Pretty much thanks to human intervention. Inhumane? Which is worse, hunting and utilizing the carcass or letting disease and starvation have at them?
Most hunters take the carcass and have it processed at a local butcher where everything gets used. Often times, excess goes to community food banks.
As pretty as some view them, deer have become rats on stilts. Pretty much thanks to human intervention. Inhumane? Which is worse, hunting and utilizing the carcass or letting disease and starvation have at them?
It will take a lot to convince me that it's a sport. Stalk it, get up close, photograph/film it to prove you were there. Then eff off and leave it alone...
But 100%, if you killed it, you get to eat it, antlers, hooves and all.
The contrary is that 'sport' shooting in some African countries is being used to fund conservation efforts.
But 100%, if you killed it, you get to eat it, antlers, hooves and all.
The contrary is that 'sport' shooting in some African countries is being used to fund conservation efforts.
Culling is one thing, hunting something else. As long as the killing is controlled and humane as is reasonable, the carcases can be butchered and sold.
Deer are farmed in the UK.
I've been shot before. Hurt really, really bad. Like being whipped or caned.
I've also been stabbed before. Felt nearly nothing.
If I had to choose, I'd go with the arrow.
Also, compared to living their entire lives on a factory farm in cramped unsanitary unnatural conditions, then watching a row of your neighbors being slaughtered right in front of you, waiting to be next... I'd rather be minding my own business in nature and then experience 5-10 seconds of dizzyness before passing out.
I've also been stabbed before. Felt nearly nothing.
If I had to choose, I'd go with the arrow.
Also, compared to living their entire lives on a factory farm in cramped unsanitary unnatural conditions, then watching a row of your neighbors being slaughtered right in front of you, waiting to be next... I'd rather be minding my own business in nature and then experience 5-10 seconds of dizzyness before passing out.
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