Greetings all,
I’m planning my next system to correspond with a new apartment. It’s a 700sq/feet with lofted cielings. The walls are very thin so I can’t bring my previous system with me. I’m trying not to disturb the neighbors. The follow are my thoughts on a system using parts on hand, but I'm open to suggestions about what would work best with the space
I already have two full range audio nirvana super 8s laying around so that’s where I’m starting. From there I have two choices: build an enclosures or go open baffle again. I have the room to set the speakers a yard away from the real wall with ample room to either side—near to mid field listening. Behind the listening position will be the kitchen.
I want to use 10” woofers in open baffle for the form factor and because I can’t have a lot of bass without disturbing the neighbors. I’ve invested in a nice set of headphones for bass heavy music. This system will primarily be used for jazz and some classical (opera).
I have an iNuke amp as well as the dual 50w ice power module to play through a miniDSP: although, I’m not beyond building a traditional 1st order crossover as well to keep amplification more tidy.
I’ve used the eminence 15a and Acoustic Elegance 15” infinite baffle thus far. Both are fantastic woofers. While the AE does really well with R&B I find the eminence’s reproduction of the upright bass fidilous in a way that makes me nostalgic for my days plays bass in high school.
The Audio Nirvanas are about 96db.I figure a bass shy system dedicated for jazz listening will keep me in check. I’ve only ever built mono systems so I am especially keen to hear in stereo for once. Sound stage and imaging are things I really want to explore.
For jazz I really appreciate a dry nimble bass.
I much prefer open baffle for ease and cost of construction, but please weigh in on what you think is right for my particular space. I’m enclosing a floor plan. No windows except on the right side of the drawing. Room treatments would be a next step and the floor is carpet.
What should I look for in a single or double 10” woofer setup that will reproduce the upright bass faithfully? I’m looking for dry and articulate.
My budget is $200 for woofers.
I’m going to cross over at 200hz and these are some of the woofers I’m looking at; although, other suggestions are very welcome.
Here’s some possibilities:
I’m planning my next system to correspond with a new apartment. It’s a 700sq/feet with lofted cielings. The walls are very thin so I can’t bring my previous system with me. I’m trying not to disturb the neighbors. The follow are my thoughts on a system using parts on hand, but I'm open to suggestions about what would work best with the space
I already have two full range audio nirvana super 8s laying around so that’s where I’m starting. From there I have two choices: build an enclosures or go open baffle again. I have the room to set the speakers a yard away from the real wall with ample room to either side—near to mid field listening. Behind the listening position will be the kitchen.
I want to use 10” woofers in open baffle for the form factor and because I can’t have a lot of bass without disturbing the neighbors. I’ve invested in a nice set of headphones for bass heavy music. This system will primarily be used for jazz and some classical (opera).
I have an iNuke amp as well as the dual 50w ice power module to play through a miniDSP: although, I’m not beyond building a traditional 1st order crossover as well to keep amplification more tidy.
I’ve used the eminence 15a and Acoustic Elegance 15” infinite baffle thus far. Both are fantastic woofers. While the AE does really well with R&B I find the eminence’s reproduction of the upright bass fidilous in a way that makes me nostalgic for my days plays bass in high school.
The Audio Nirvanas are about 96db.I figure a bass shy system dedicated for jazz listening will keep me in check. I’ve only ever built mono systems so I am especially keen to hear in stereo for once. Sound stage and imaging are things I really want to explore.
For jazz I really appreciate a dry nimble bass.
I much prefer open baffle for ease and cost of construction, but please weigh in on what you think is right for my particular space. I’m enclosing a floor plan. No windows except on the right side of the drawing. Room treatments would be a next step and the floor is carpet.
What should I look for in a single or double 10” woofer setup that will reproduce the upright bass faithfully? I’m looking for dry and articulate.
My budget is $200 for woofers.
I’m going to cross over at 200hz and these are some of the woofers I’m looking at; although, other suggestions are very welcome.
Here’s some possibilities:
- GRS 10SW-4 (QTS 0.93 90db)
- Visaton WS25 (QTS 1.43 but 88db)
- Acoustic Research, available on eBay, (Qts 0.715 93db)
- Goldwood GW-410D (Qts 0.61 96db)
- Faital 10FE200 (Qts 0.5 96db)
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I would also add peerless sls10" in parallel to your list. The ice amp will have no problem with the impedance, you will get a little over 90db of sensitivity and you can use the mini dsp to flatten the bass as low as you want to in your scenario. Dipole is definitely the way to go if you can get them out into the room a bit, as when you point them directly at you far less energy will go to the room and your neighbors compared to any other bass system except cardioid, due to the cancellation nulls at the sides (or the rear in the case of the cardioid).
Also, if you buy 4 of them at Parts Express the price drops to $57 each. These are the same alternate budget woofers both Linkwitz and John K suggested for use with their systems. I've used them in various projects for over 20 years, they're still around for a reason.
Also, if you buy 4 of them at Parts Express the price drops to $57 each. These are the same alternate budget woofers both Linkwitz and John K suggested for use with their systems. I've used them in various projects for over 20 years, they're still around for a reason.
Wow, thanks! Looks just what I'm looking for. With an 8" full range on top and two woofers on each side how far away should I sit from the speakers for integration?
200hz is around 5.6 feet long, making a quarter wavelength around 1.4 feet long. Using a fullrange with that crossover point I wouldn't be too concerned about sitting distance, Let the width you can place them at determine the triangle.
Thanks for the advice. Grew up in Waterbury, VT. Nice to hear from someone from that neck of the woods.