The PVR 6MR500-NDY is one of my favorite high sensitivity mid drivers, but the logo on the dust cap is UGLY. So I took a chance and did some cosmetic surgery...
It's hard to tell what was originally there but you can still see a faint shadow of the logo left behind under brighter ambient lighting. Its definitely better looking now and it didn't hurt the dust cap material at all.
I used 2000 grit sand paper and some coarse pre treatment of cotton swabs dampened with carburetor cleaner spray (nasty, smelly stuff !!!).
Wiping the logo with carburetor cleaner soaked swabs removes the bulk of what appears silk screaned paint. When the cleaner residue has completely evaporated, I sanded with very light pressure in a circular pattern, alternating directions back and forth.
If you guys use any other methods to do this, please let me know if they're more successful. I love these drivers but they are so ugly with that stupid logo. I wish PRV would not put them on to begin with.
It's hard to tell what was originally there but you can still see a faint shadow of the logo left behind under brighter ambient lighting. Its definitely better looking now and it didn't hurt the dust cap material at all.
I used 2000 grit sand paper and some coarse pre treatment of cotton swabs dampened with carburetor cleaner spray (nasty, smelly stuff !!!).
Wiping the logo with carburetor cleaner soaked swabs removes the bulk of what appears silk screaned paint. When the cleaner residue has completely evaporated, I sanded with very light pressure in a circular pattern, alternating directions back and forth.
If you guys use any other methods to do this, please let me know if they're more successful. I love these drivers but they are so ugly with that stupid logo. I wish PRV would not put them on to begin with.
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I used a black Sharpie. 😛
That paper is pretty thin and I would be careful using sandpaper. The paint thinner idea is good but it might dissolve the glue holding the dustcap to the cone.
This is 5MR450NDY - same white logo on my XSD speaker.
That paper is pretty thin and I would be careful using sandpaper. The paint thinner idea is good but it might dissolve the glue holding the dustcap to the cone.
This is 5MR450NDY - same white logo on my XSD speaker.
You find this unbearable? 😉
Remember it is a Car speaker so of course it will have car type logos and everything.
(Hint, not the most subtle ones 😉 )
Remember it is a Car speaker so of course it will have car type logos and everything.
(Hint, not the most subtle ones 😉 )
Yes, especially if they can't even place the dustcap logo on straight in relation to the mounting holes which is going to be visibly blatant. I have to stare at these things every time I listen to them looking like cheap @#$%. All the other drivers don't have a logo either and that makes these PRV drivers stand out even more.
Either way, how hard is it to put on a logo straight? It just shows how much that one employee at PRV cares about his or her work.
To me this is kind of like seeing a woman go out in public wearing those trashy pajama pants. This is the kind of person who doesn't care about their appearance and typically wouldn't bother treating others respectfully, being they don't even seem to respect themselves. It just signifies laziness and basic lack of care.
If you think I'm too picky about this, just ask around how many people would pay 130 bucks for a driver that has a crooked logo showing itself off right in your face (unless you like grilles on speakers, which I don't).
I know by now you think I should accept the typical sloppy esthetics and workmanship in something that really should reflect an appropriate amount of attention to detail, being otherwise by its own function a precision engineered item. I highly doubt you personally would buy a luxury product like a nice wristwatch with a sloppy placed logo.
Either way, how hard is it to put on a logo straight? It just shows how much that one employee at PRV cares about his or her work.
To me this is kind of like seeing a woman go out in public wearing those trashy pajama pants. This is the kind of person who doesn't care about their appearance and typically wouldn't bother treating others respectfully, being they don't even seem to respect themselves. It just signifies laziness and basic lack of care.
If you think I'm too picky about this, just ask around how many people would pay 130 bucks for a driver that has a crooked logo showing itself off right in your face (unless you like grilles on speakers, which I don't).
I know by now you think I should accept the typical sloppy esthetics and workmanship in something that really should reflect an appropriate amount of attention to detail, being otherwise by its own function a precision engineered item. I highly doubt you personally would buy a luxury product like a nice wristwatch with a sloppy placed logo.
Thats a cool OB setup you have there. Always wanted to build one of those myself.I used a black Sharpie. 😛
That paper is pretty thin and I would be careful using sandpaper. The paint thinner idea is good but it might dissolve the glue holding the dustcap to the cone.
This is 5MR450NDY - same white logo on my XSD speaker.
I used 2000 grit sandpaper which is very very fine and barely removes any material plus I use very light pressure, allowing the grit itself to do the work, so there's little concern doing any damage to the dustcap.
I also wasn't saturating the cotton swabs with solvent, so there wasn't any chance of the glue joints being affected. I just lifted as much of the printed ink as possible before saturating the dustcap material. The leftover printing was removed with sanding and I attempted to only go deep enough to get most of the visible logo. I think a very thin coating of satin black PVA will hide the rest and won't noticeably affect driver performance.
It think these are PA mostly. Maybe they are car audio as other car audio drivers have logos. I agree it should be aligned with bolt holes for levelness. Or have a logo that is not so text like. Some of these are quite in your face.
Alpine:
Rockford Fosgate:
Boss:
Polk:
You get the idea…
Alpine:
Rockford Fosgate:
Boss:
Polk:
You get the idea…
Yeah, I think these PRVs are mainly geared towards car audio in their originating country and crowd following. Here in the US and in Europe they may be seen as more of a pro sound manufacturer. Either way, they should try to get the asthetics better if they want to charge more than 100 bucks for a smaller mid driver.
The 100 - 200 dollar price point has a lot of competition, so they should try to get something as basic as a logo right. That small detail will deter many people from buying IMO. I wasn't about to send back this driver being I would have wanted to remove the logo to begin with, but being one was crooked the choice to remove it was obvious.
These days it appears you have to be glad the driver itself is functionally ok out of the box. With these obscure brand higher efficiency drivers that usually have tighter VC gaps, sometimes you get one with a slightly off center VC that barely rubs and it doesn't show up until the driver has warmed up or just by tightening the mounting screws unevenly. Thats frustrating and heightens my sense of attention to detail to the point of not wanting to overlook smaller cosmetic defects.
The 100 - 200 dollar price point has a lot of competition, so they should try to get something as basic as a logo right. That small detail will deter many people from buying IMO. I wasn't about to send back this driver being I would have wanted to remove the logo to begin with, but being one was crooked the choice to remove it was obvious.
These days it appears you have to be glad the driver itself is functionally ok out of the box. With these obscure brand higher efficiency drivers that usually have tighter VC gaps, sometimes you get one with a slightly off center VC that barely rubs and it doesn't show up until the driver has warmed up or just by tightening the mounting screws unevenly. Thats frustrating and heightens my sense of attention to detail to the point of not wanting to overlook smaller cosmetic defects.
... missing the letter "E"You find this unbearable? 😉
Remember it is a Car speaker so of course it will have car type logos and everything.
(Hint, not the most subtle ones 😉 )
As I've mentioned in previous posts, SUPERFICIALITY is like a disease or obsession to some people.
It varies of course in individuals, from mild to wild.
Some call it Obsessive Compulsive Behavior (OCD).
Things HAVE to be a "certain way"...... or else!
I used to have a friend, now dead, who was a nervous nut about every trivial thing....
And if he saw something was a tiny bit "off", he'd have to correct it.
Like one day at his apartment, I casually handled some remote controls sitting on his coffee table. (VCR, TV, Stereo)
Don't you know, he comes back into the living room, sits down, and within seconds, arranges those remotes ALL lined up perfectly with the edge of the coffee table.
And had to make a statement about it!
His wristwatch on the dining room table - the leather wristband was lined up with the edge of the table, as were other various articles... envelopes, etc.
In his kitchen, opening the cubbard doors, all the canned goods - lined up like soldiers at attention, labels facing front.
Yet.... in the living room, a heavy coating of dust everywhere, lamps, tables, etc.
The turntable dust cover had thick dust on it, you couldn't see the platter inside.
So..... I wrote in the dust "clean me damn you".
He didn't notice it until that evening, and calls me to curse me out.
LOL!
Oh, and one day while riding in his car (a bottom-line, cardboard door trimmed cheap Toyota Starlett, I went to use the cigarette lighter in the dashboard.
That set him off, he yells at me that the lighter is "pristine" with no ashes on it, and it's not to be used.
So he hands me his BIC lighter instead.
Good lord was he a nutcase!
I, myself, am a bit of a "perfectionist" about some things, have preferences, but not to the extremes like speaker appearance.
I don't need to have speakers showing, the grille cloths to me are much more suitable decor.
My desires are for much more important things.... to a point.
I don't "go nuts" over things. I'm relatively tidy, keep a decent house, I just don't go nuts over it.
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@wiseoldtech - I don't understand that you would post a story like that. although somewhat interesting, it does patronize the fact people who are truly OCD are stigmatized and outcast. These people have genuine health issues and require a lot of attention in order to manage the quality of their lives.
My mom was OCD, bipolar and in very bad health from it all. People would take advantage of her dedicated urge to do things neatly and thoroughly and it genuinely wrecked her life along with me having to live with her as a child. I am borderline autistic aside from having severe, life threatening auto immune issues plus chronic liver and kidney failure. I basically have one foot in the grave. You wouldn't readily pick up on it dealing with me in person, but I have to be clean so that I don't risk my immediate well-being. I don't however lose sleep over crooked dust caps. I simply just don't like to look at something made with lack of attention to detail and it doesn't enrich what little is left of my life. You can call it a pet peave if you like but its far from OCD. I just enjoy precision and detail in technical things. There's nothing wrong with that.
I do care alot about doing things correctly - thats partly the European in me. I don't settle for "good enough". People have often taken advantage of that trait trying to befriend me with an agenda. People can be very abusive. Its genuinely disheartening that people will use and drop a person just to get what they want out of the situation.
We all have our pet peaves, but I take offense to people who ignorantly criticize and don't understand. If you have ever watched the TV show "Monk", you would see how people with genuine OCD live lonely and difficult lives.
My mom was OCD, bipolar and in very bad health from it all. People would take advantage of her dedicated urge to do things neatly and thoroughly and it genuinely wrecked her life along with me having to live with her as a child. I am borderline autistic aside from having severe, life threatening auto immune issues plus chronic liver and kidney failure. I basically have one foot in the grave. You wouldn't readily pick up on it dealing with me in person, but I have to be clean so that I don't risk my immediate well-being. I don't however lose sleep over crooked dust caps. I simply just don't like to look at something made with lack of attention to detail and it doesn't enrich what little is left of my life. You can call it a pet peave if you like but its far from OCD. I just enjoy precision and detail in technical things. There's nothing wrong with that.
I do care alot about doing things correctly - thats partly the European in me. I don't settle for "good enough". People have often taken advantage of that trait trying to befriend me with an agenda. People can be very abusive. Its genuinely disheartening that people will use and drop a person just to get what they want out of the situation.
We all have our pet peaves, but I take offense to people who ignorantly criticize and don't understand. If you have ever watched the TV show "Monk", you would see how people with genuine OCD live lonely and difficult lives.