What gives?
One is a super duper model, hard to find and so on.
The other is almost a joke in price and name, and other comparisons, and is the better option...
There was a thread about an Arcam amp with cheap capacitors...I wonder how it sounded, and what was the power stage (transistors / chip amps).
I do not use turntables.
My sister in law asked me to check 2 Sony systems, the dealer had left them at her flat.
I simply turned them up full volume, the one that did not distort was my choice. As it turned out, she did not buy that, she bought the more expensive one...
Image is everything.
I can see you smiling inside...
Have fun.
One is a super duper model, hard to find and so on.
The other is almost a joke in price and name, and other comparisons, and is the better option...
There was a thread about an Arcam amp with cheap capacitors...I wonder how it sounded, and what was the power stage (transistors / chip amps).
I do not use turntables.
My sister in law asked me to check 2 Sony systems, the dealer had left them at her flat.
I simply turned them up full volume, the one that did not distort was my choice. As it turned out, she did not buy that, she bought the more expensive one...
Image is everything.
I can see you smiling inside...
Have fun.
I take the SL10 for spec and look.
Wait... no need already got 2 ( one fully functional and with new(!) mc310!
That said i bet the second one is an audiojewelry model.
Wait... no need already got 2 ( one fully functional and with new(!) mc310!
That said i bet the second one is an audiojewelry model.
So far, the comments are interesting, but I'm reserving actual TT names for a bit.
Hopefully the spec sheets are understood of each one... compare them (W/F, S/N DB levels, etc.)
Hopefully the spec sheets are understood of each one... compare them (W/F, S/N DB levels, etc.)
I'll go with number 1, the specifications on number 2 are meaningless since I have no clue how it was tested.
Ok Kevin, that's good.
Number 2's specs are from the manufacturer, as are #1's.
I will say though that their price levels are hugely different.
I figured the second one is a boutique unit and probably looks spectacular and costs a fortune, but the specifications are essentially meaningless since the specification under which they were tested was not spelled out. Based on paper I think the choice is pretty clear, in person I might choose the other table if I could listen to both and make a decision based on which I thought actually sounded better.
It is also likely that the cheap mass produced TT is more reliable and much less fiddly to set up.. LOL (Says the masochist who owns not one, but two TD-124 tables)
It is also likely that the cheap mass produced TT is more reliable and much less fiddly to set up.. LOL (Says the masochist who owns not one, but two TD-124 tables)
OK..... the turntables are.....
Are you ready?......
#1 is an inexpensive 1980's Kenwood KD-66F - I actually use one in my main system.
The thing's as smooth and quiet as a church-mouse, and trouble-free for years.
The only thing you hear is music from it.
#2 is a Mcintosh MT-10, which costs around $9,500 or so.
And for that princely sum, you get 4x the W/F, and less S/N ratio than the Kenwood.
Are you ready?......
#1 is an inexpensive 1980's Kenwood KD-66F - I actually use one in my main system.
The thing's as smooth and quiet as a church-mouse, and trouble-free for years.
The only thing you hear is music from it.
#2 is a Mcintosh MT-10, which costs around $9,500 or so.
And for that princely sum, you get 4x the W/F, and less S/N ratio than the Kenwood.
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the first beeing a simple standard thing .... in a positive sense.
The second seemingly a Me2-OEM*-thing with one the most ugliest faceplates ever seen on a turntable.
jauu
Calvin
* could be a Clearaudio
the first beeing a simple standard thing .... in a positive sense.
The second seemingly a Me2-OEM*-thing with one the most ugliest faceplates ever seen on a turntable.
jauu
Calvin
* could be a Clearaudio
Guy's you don't get the attracting forces to have a 'mean green machine' ( with an illuminated speed meter)!
I definetly prefer the 'pre walkman' look of my SL10's anyway. And 43 years later peoples who never seen one are still in disbelief on how 'futuristic' it looks ( one of my young friend couldn't believe the thing was 20 y older than him and thought i was joking!). He was in the same disbelief regarding the sound too. 🙂
I definetly prefer the 'pre walkman' look of my SL10's anyway. And 43 years later peoples who never seen one are still in disbelief on how 'futuristic' it looks ( one of my young friend couldn't believe the thing was 20 y older than him and thought i was joking!). He was in the same disbelief regarding the sound too. 🙂
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So have I.
I had one come into the shop a while back.
It apparently had a problem with speed control stability.
You'd think that plunking out something like $9000.00 for something to play a record on would be glorious, reliable, and impressive, and offset your own insecurities. (Like a super expensive sports car would)
I lugged it home one night after repairs, and swapped it with my inexpensive (cheap, got it for free) Kenwood.
After thorough listening, I concluded that the Kenwood ran circles around that behemoth Mcinosh.
Just goes to show that the audio world is richly tainted with deception aka snake oil.
So, adding to this thread, a simple Direct Drive machine, with a lightweight 2.4 pound platter, good electronics, out-does a fancy, expensive heavy-monster-platter machine that naturally attracts the purists, regardless of specifications.
I might add that my lowly Kenwood also has remote control of cuing up/down/,start/stop, from across the room, nice when the phone rings, I don't have to get my azz up off the sofa.
And with the Audio Technica "special elliptical" cartridge on it, and no need for antiskating, I've never had a bad listening session.
You don't need to spend money on perceived "gloriosity" for satisfying music playback.
And that's the truth.
I might add that my lowly Kenwood also has remote control of cuing up/down/,start/stop, from across the room, nice when the phone rings, I don't have to get my azz up off the sofa.
And with the Audio Technica "special elliptical" cartridge on it, and no need for antiskating, I've never had a bad listening session.
You don't need to spend money on perceived "gloriosity" for satisfying music playback.
And that's the truth.