Looking for recommendations on a provider who can properly & well design a 3 or more speaker, floor standing speaker cab for good to modestly decent price, and provides a solid plan, steps, details, etc for building it not just a CAD file or whatever.
I already have a pair of Eton 19SD-1 silk dome Tweeters & a pair of Eton 4-512/C8/25 4" paper cone Midranges. I'd need provider that would also assist on selecting 1 or maybe 2 Bass/Subsonic Bass Woofer and maybe Mid Bass Woofer in conjunction with cab design with that/those woofers and the Etons.
I'll have enough room for cabs that are 12.5-18" Width, 36-45" Height preferably 38-42" Height range, Depth I have up to 20" maybe 21" total space of Depth, but don't know how Deep cabs can be nor how far from back wall cabs would need to be.
I'm not looking for any over complicated, high labor intensive & skill design requiring CNC machine, steam shaping wood, etc nor litany of different angled & shaped pieces that must be carefully fit together, etc.
A modern, fundamentally well designed with the select, most beneficial & key to sonic performance design & aspects. Starting with Bass Woofer(s) selection (12-15" Woofer/Subwoofer, possibly 6-8" Mid Bass Woofer) and designing that section of cab (volume, if sealed, passive radiators, or ported & specific details & tuning on them, internal cab shape, bracing, damping fill amount & type) with isolated internal chamber from Mid & Tweeter. Similarly for Tweeter & Midrange. Front baffle design & contours along with the front Left & Right angled corners from front baffle to side panels, side panel shape/design/contours (rounder, V, K shape, etc) and rear panel shape/angles.
Only 1 potential custom/semi custom aspect I'd want if viable. Since Tweeter & Mid don't require much cubic feet of volume, is use portion of that space for a large sealed & isolated from all speakers Xover mounting compartment with rear access only cover, binding posts would be mounted to the cover. Haven't ironed out best method for maintaining seals while running wires from Xover through wood to run to speaker connections yet.
Suggestions on a company/provider who could help & be a good match for this?
I already have a pair of Eton 19SD-1 silk dome Tweeters & a pair of Eton 4-512/C8/25 4" paper cone Midranges. I'd need provider that would also assist on selecting 1 or maybe 2 Bass/Subsonic Bass Woofer and maybe Mid Bass Woofer in conjunction with cab design with that/those woofers and the Etons.
I'll have enough room for cabs that are 12.5-18" Width, 36-45" Height preferably 38-42" Height range, Depth I have up to 20" maybe 21" total space of Depth, but don't know how Deep cabs can be nor how far from back wall cabs would need to be.
I'm not looking for any over complicated, high labor intensive & skill design requiring CNC machine, steam shaping wood, etc nor litany of different angled & shaped pieces that must be carefully fit together, etc.
A modern, fundamentally well designed with the select, most beneficial & key to sonic performance design & aspects. Starting with Bass Woofer(s) selection (12-15" Woofer/Subwoofer, possibly 6-8" Mid Bass Woofer) and designing that section of cab (volume, if sealed, passive radiators, or ported & specific details & tuning on them, internal cab shape, bracing, damping fill amount & type) with isolated internal chamber from Mid & Tweeter. Similarly for Tweeter & Midrange. Front baffle design & contours along with the front Left & Right angled corners from front baffle to side panels, side panel shape/design/contours (rounder, V, K shape, etc) and rear panel shape/angles.
Only 1 potential custom/semi custom aspect I'd want if viable. Since Tweeter & Mid don't require much cubic feet of volume, is use portion of that space for a large sealed & isolated from all speakers Xover mounting compartment with rear access only cover, binding posts would be mounted to the cover. Haven't ironed out best method for maintaining seals while running wires from Xover through wood to run to speaker connections yet.
Suggestions on a company/provider who could help & be a good match for this?
I don't live anywhere near you, so I can't help, but I want to point you that it is pretty sure you won't find any designer.
You have already part of the drivers, you are basically asking someone very experienced to work with those exact drivers, and adding a woofer with some dimension constraints, and come at you with a custom crossover and a detailed plan, all for a good to a modestly decent price, whatever it means for you.
Any decent designer will need to have the test box with the exact dimension of what you will build just to start measuring drivers, and needs lots of hours to come to a decent crossover. Some crossovers need even more tuning than others. The woofer needs to be properly chosen first and simulated before buying. And if the designer can't expect to have any revenue out of this design apart your fee, he needs to grant you some sort of unique license. All in all, a very costly approach. If someone asks very little money it is sure it is a crap design based on online crossover calculators that are useless.
The only way to come down in price is to search for a local audio diy group, and ask if there is someone that can/will share with you this journey. Depending on the skills it can be a successful journey, but long for sure.
Ralf
You have already part of the drivers, you are basically asking someone very experienced to work with those exact drivers, and adding a woofer with some dimension constraints, and come at you with a custom crossover and a detailed plan, all for a good to a modestly decent price, whatever it means for you.
Any decent designer will need to have the test box with the exact dimension of what you will build just to start measuring drivers, and needs lots of hours to come to a decent crossover. Some crossovers need even more tuning than others. The woofer needs to be properly chosen first and simulated before buying. And if the designer can't expect to have any revenue out of this design apart your fee, he needs to grant you some sort of unique license. All in all, a very costly approach. If someone asks very little money it is sure it is a crap design based on online crossover calculators that are useless.
The only way to come down in price is to search for a local audio diy group, and ask if there is someone that can/will share with you this journey. Depending on the skills it can be a successful journey, but long for sure.
Ralf
I'd kinda decided on having Humble Homemade HiFi UK design the Xover & which parts works best together in it per their experiences, once cab, drivers, etc had been ironed out, separate from looking for cab design & woofer selection help.
It's a pretty complex & ever deepening rabbit hole of info, data, terms, etc I wasn't remotely expecting... I simply don't have the brain space left & time to adequately learn the seemingly infinite design factors.
For Tweeters & Midrange, figured I'd go with a partial wing shape but that has angled sides meet with a TBD width flat back panel that's vertically angled/sloped, a flat main front baffle with angular/contoured "frame"? design borrowed from design of so many modern designed cabs I've seen like what I've seen some refer to as diamond... but not set in stone at all, especially after reading a bit more about baffle step & several other things raising more concerns. My friend and I have the skills, craftsmanship & most any tools from start to show car paint & clearcoat finish except a CNCA and can definitely knock out some very well built & looking cabs (I met him 15 years ago & became part time work partner building very high end custom stair cases on multi million dollar vacation homes, we built everything from scratch & to custom order).
In I guess basic terms, even a predesigned cab/kit design that works well with the Eton Tweeters & Mids, and help choosing any separate or combined with Etons woofer cab design & woofer that would sonically match/sit well together. The design aspects aside from basic old school rectangular box is far above my head so truly don't know how much skill & effort I'm asking for... I'd budgeted for $200 to maybe $300 or so for assistance in cab design/choice & for choosing woofer. Xover design & parts, supplies to build cab, new woofer costs, etc are separate from that amount.
I'm just as open to pair of used 3 speaker floor standing cabs that would be good platform for Etons & upgrading Xover & possibly woofer. Budget I could do for pair where I'd want to upgrade the woofer probably in $400-$600 range, and if already has solid woofer that Etons should pair well with, then probably $800-$1000 for pair range.
I'm definitely open to suggestions....
It's a pretty complex & ever deepening rabbit hole of info, data, terms, etc I wasn't remotely expecting... I simply don't have the brain space left & time to adequately learn the seemingly infinite design factors.
For Tweeters & Midrange, figured I'd go with a partial wing shape but that has angled sides meet with a TBD width flat back panel that's vertically angled/sloped, a flat main front baffle with angular/contoured "frame"? design borrowed from design of so many modern designed cabs I've seen like what I've seen some refer to as diamond... but not set in stone at all, especially after reading a bit more about baffle step & several other things raising more concerns. My friend and I have the skills, craftsmanship & most any tools from start to show car paint & clearcoat finish except a CNCA and can definitely knock out some very well built & looking cabs (I met him 15 years ago & became part time work partner building very high end custom stair cases on multi million dollar vacation homes, we built everything from scratch & to custom order).
In I guess basic terms, even a predesigned cab/kit design that works well with the Eton Tweeters & Mids, and help choosing any separate or combined with Etons woofer cab design & woofer that would sonically match/sit well together. The design aspects aside from basic old school rectangular box is far above my head so truly don't know how much skill & effort I'm asking for... I'd budgeted for $200 to maybe $300 or so for assistance in cab design/choice & for choosing woofer. Xover design & parts, supplies to build cab, new woofer costs, etc are separate from that amount.
I'm just as open to pair of used 3 speaker floor standing cabs that would be good platform for Etons & upgrading Xover & possibly woofer. Budget I could do for pair where I'd want to upgrade the woofer probably in $400-$600 range, and if already has solid woofer that Etons should pair well with, then probably $800-$1000 for pair range.
I'm definitely open to suggestions....