Peerless by Tymphany SDS-160F25PR01-08 6-1/2" Paper Cone Woofer Speaker
Anyone used these recently or ?
I was thinking:
4 of these as two small subs in a office/small shop? With a pair of ‘MtM mains’ (hivi m4n or dayton rs100 and tweeters.
Or as a W in a pair of WMtMW?
Or 4 seperates as TMW?
Im Kind of a 2 channel and subwoofer listener but that isn't really important... rs100s/hivi/peerless parts in hand(currently in other speakers.
Anyone used these recently or ?
I was thinking:
4 of these as two small subs in a office/small shop? With a pair of ‘MtM mains’ (hivi m4n or dayton rs100 and tweeters.
Or as a W in a pair of WMtMW?
Or 4 seperates as TMW?
Im Kind of a 2 channel and subwoofer listener but that isn't really important... rs100s/hivi/peerless parts in hand(currently in other speakers.
This is one awesome budget driver that will provide deep and articulate bass in a properly sized enclosure. I have not had a chance to work with these but if you look for posts of member Greebster, you will find he deployed these in transmission line achieving bass response in upper 20's.
You could check out this thread from Parts Express Tech Talk, which discusses similar options:
Peerless 830657 for <$6a piece! -
Techtalk Speaker Building, Audio, Video Discussion Forum
The SDS160 has very similar sound and specs to the 830657 but has almost twice the Xmax. I've used the 160 in a two way floor, standing test build with a Vifa BC25TG tweeter. However, my attempt at a crossover didn't quite come off; there was something not quite right with the overall sound. I also tried it with the 830657 and they sounded pretty much the same.
There's also an MTM floor standing design project using this woofer on Midwest Audio Club's DIY pages which uses a GRS tweeter and a really neat, simple crossover. If I can find the link I'll post it for you.
Geoff
Peerless 830657 for <$6a piece! -
Techtalk Speaker Building, Audio, Video Discussion Forum
The SDS160 has very similar sound and specs to the 830657 but has almost twice the Xmax. I've used the 160 in a two way floor, standing test build with a Vifa BC25TG tweeter. However, my attempt at a crossover didn't quite come off; there was something not quite right with the overall sound. I also tried it with the 830657 and they sounded pretty much the same.
There's also an MTM floor standing design project using this woofer on Midwest Audio Club's DIY pages which uses a GRS tweeter and a really neat, simple crossover. If I can find the link I'll post it for you.
Geoff
From the Le values on the datasheet you wouldn't think the 830657 and this one would be similar (Le mainly). But the impedance curves show different: they don't match the ratings. So the woofers might be interchangeable. Over here a MLTL design called the LBVS (sorry, Dutch forum), with the 830657 and the Seas H0831 is quite popular.
Thanks, that Dutch project looks interesting, slightly different cabinet to the one I used which was a BR. I haven't seen a MLTL with the port in the bottom of the cabinet before!
Some of the specs of the two Peerless are indeed different - at least the 'official version' - but I found the sound to be similar. Maybe the differences in the Le values were why mine didn't sound quite right?
Geoff
Some of the specs of the two Peerless are indeed different - at least the 'official version' - but I found the sound to be similar. Maybe the differences in the Le values were why mine didn't sound quite right?
Geoff
You guys are great, thank you!
That parts express cabinet is making me wish i bought 4 more. Tower of bass
i modeled the #830657 in Horn Response in the same offset driver Tapered Qw pipe as the #160f... and theres just a hint of difference(a bit of a dip as Le i suppose?), but both ‘flat’, well beyond ‘subwoofer at 100-120hz ’ and easily clean up for full range to tweeter,,except the ‘xmax’ cuts into the other quicker and tuning frequency is 5-7 hertz less or input reduced. If Using the same 60 liter, 35 or 42hz...
That parts express cabinet is making me wish i bought 4 more. Tower of bass

i modeled the #830657 in Horn Response in the same offset driver Tapered Qw pipe as the #160f... and theres just a hint of difference(a bit of a dip as Le i suppose?), but both ‘flat’, well beyond ‘subwoofer at 100-120hz ’ and easily clean up for full range to tweeter,,except the ‘xmax’ cuts into the other quicker and tuning frequency is 5-7 hertz less or input reduced. If Using the same 60 liter, 35 or 42hz...
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You could check out this thread from Parts Express Tech Talk, which discusses similar options:
Peerless 830657 for <$6a piece! -
Techtalk Speaker Building, Audio, Video Discussion Forum
The SDS160 has very similar sound and specs to the 830657 but has almost twice the Xmax. I've used the 160 in a two way floor, standing test build with a Vifa BC25TG tweeter. However, my attempt at a crossover didn't quite come off; there was something not quite right with the overall sound. I also tried it with the 830657 and they sounded pretty much the same.
There's also an MTM floor standing design project using this woofer on Midwest Audio Club's DIY pages which uses a GRS tweeter and a really neat, simple crossover. If I can find the link I'll post it for you.
Geoff
I have a couple of each of these Geoff:
Peerless by Tymphany BC25SC06-04 1" Textile Dome Tweeter
Peerless by Tymphany D26NC56-06 1" Fabric Dome Tweeter 6 Ohm
The BC25SC is the one used in the tower build in the PETT thread.
I think it used 4 of the Peerless woofers per side. One of the PETT members bought a carton of the $7 Peerless and measured them all, the specs varied a bit so maybe that was why they were so cheap.
Apart from my alleged crossover efforts, the SDS160 is a very nice sounding driver.
Geoff
I think it used 4 of the Peerless woofers per side. One of the PETT members bought a carton of the $7 Peerless and measured them all, the specs varied a bit so maybe that was why they were so cheap.
Apart from my alleged crossover efforts, the SDS160 is a very nice sounding driver.
Geoff
Almost have the same cabinet idea actually
🙂
I just added a bit of qw pipe and backwave to it(driver at exit) . i dunno if it helps or hinders but it looks like you had a similar approach and sizing(48”)
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I just added a bit of qw pipe and backwave to it(driver at exit) . i dunno if it helps or hinders but it looks like you had a similar approach and sizing(48”)
Peerless SDS-160
I should stress that neither of those speakers are my projects - all my builds are by other designers.
Hopefully the various links will give you some inspiration.
Geoff
I should stress that neither of those speakers are my projects - all my builds are by other designers.
Hopefully the various links will give you some inspiration.
Geoff
I should stress that neither of those speakers are my projects - all my builds are by other designers.
Hopefully the various links will give you some inspiration.
Geoff
Absolutely a huge help and very appreciated.
Another couple of options (scroll down)
Cheapie build - Peerless 5 driver 2.5 way MTMMM
Albeit with the Peerless 830657 woofer and Vifa DX25TG05-04 (aka Scan speak D2604-830000).
I'd want to 2nd check the enclosure F3 posted (seems a bit high to me). NB: I never built these so take that into consideration.
Cheapie build - Peerless 5 driver 2.5 way MTMMM
Albeit with the Peerless 830657 woofer and Vifa DX25TG05-04 (aka Scan speak D2604-830000).
I'd want to 2nd check the enclosure F3 posted (seems a bit high to me). NB: I never built these so take that into consideration.
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/peerless-by-tymphany/SDS-160F25PR01-08/6557514
This SDS woofer is available from Digi-key for $22. (along with several other Tymphany models)
This SDS woofer is available from Digi-key for $22. (along with several other Tymphany models)
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