Hello everybody, please give me some advice...I want to buy the Blu-Ray player Sony UBP-X800M2 to listen DVD-Audio, SACD, USB for Hi-Res music. This machine has only HDMI output and I want to connect it to an ordinary amplifier to RCA input. I think it is necessary to use a converter, so my question is what device I need to connect the Blu-Ray player to amplifier. Many thanks...
You'll need a DAC (RCA In S/PDIF) / network streamer (RJ45 Ethernet In) / BlueTooth capable player.
I think you may well be looking for something like this :
Compatible With DTS / Dolby Audio Extractor RCA HDMI Audio Extractor Splitter HDMI To Audio Extractor Optical 4K X 2K SPDIF|HDMI Cables| - AliExpress
It gives analog out but you might get better results using the S/PDIF output into a standalone DAC.
Compatible With DTS / Dolby Audio Extractor RCA HDMI Audio Extractor Splitter HDMI To Audio Extractor Optical 4K X 2K SPDIF|HDMI Cables| - AliExpress
It gives analog out but you might get better results using the S/PDIF output into a standalone DAC.
purple, do you want genuine high fidelity playback of your hi-res discs? Or is it just a question of convenience to be able to hear these discs?
If the latter, then the HDMI extractor linked by abraxalito will certainly do the job. Of course this unit will contain DAC circuitry which is nothing more than utilitarian.
If the former, then as abraxalito mentioned, you could use the HDMI extractor's s/pdif output to feed a decent quality external DAC.
But be aware that in the case of SACD's you will not be able to access the true DSD signal with such a basic HDMI extractor - the blu-ray player will always be converting the DSD to PCM. Why? I explained it over on the audiosciencereview forum -
HDMI Audio to USB Conversion? | Audio Science Review (ASR) Forum
In short, DSD-over-HDMI requires a more sophisticated extraction device, such as this -
DMI/MHL Input /Digital Audio I2S Coaxial Fiber HDMI to I2S/IIS HDMI OVER I2S 614823502759 | eBay
And frankly, hi-res audio from an optical disc player (whether DSD or PCM) is complicated and outdated. Long term, I recommend you rip your hi-res discs to files, then invest in a good computer playback device.
If the latter, then the HDMI extractor linked by abraxalito will certainly do the job. Of course this unit will contain DAC circuitry which is nothing more than utilitarian.
If the former, then as abraxalito mentioned, you could use the HDMI extractor's s/pdif output to feed a decent quality external DAC.
But be aware that in the case of SACD's you will not be able to access the true DSD signal with such a basic HDMI extractor - the blu-ray player will always be converting the DSD to PCM. Why? I explained it over on the audiosciencereview forum -
HDMI Audio to USB Conversion? | Audio Science Review (ASR) Forum
In short, DSD-over-HDMI requires a more sophisticated extraction device, such as this -
DMI/MHL Input /Digital Audio I2S Coaxial Fiber HDMI to I2S/IIS HDMI OVER I2S 614823502759 | eBay
And frankly, hi-res audio from an optical disc player (whether DSD or PCM) is complicated and outdated. Long term, I recommend you rip your hi-res discs to files, then invest in a good computer playback device.
Many thanks to all of you... linuxfan, I've ripped all my records(to preserve the music)(I have a good analog audio line too) in wav 24/192, some of them are DVD-Audio(my Denon DVD-3910 DVD-player became older...), some are flacs, my first wish, sometimes ago, was that to listen this music without PC, for SILENCE...Anyway I have a good soundboard (Asus Xonar Essence STX), but if all the job is too complicated, I think it is better to listen music directly from PC to amplifier. My computer have i5-9500(passive cooler), Asus Xonar Essence STX as I said, 16Gb RAM memory, a good power supply, this unit was made for music...but I would like to listen without PC...Now can I get another advice? That's all, sorry for my bad English...
I would choose any DVD-Audio, SACD player, DVD & Blue-Ray device, that have audio RCA outputs as well as the usual HDMI used for the pictures...
Great chance that audio and image quality are close enough between Oppo, Sony, Denon, Philips... you can not go really wrong whatever the device and choice is large enough not to waste the signal quality with third party gadgets at the output of the HDMi port !
Great chance that audio and image quality are close enough between Oppo, Sony, Denon, Philips... you can not go really wrong whatever the device and choice is large enough not to waste the signal quality with third party gadgets at the output of the HDMi port !
OK, so you want genuine high fidelity. Read on ...
Sounds like a nice computer - but it's 1000 times more powerful than you need to play audio files!
Well there are dedicated network audio player devices, such as the Marantz NA6006 -
NA6006
but these are very expensive.
At this point in time the best value high-fidelity music server devices, IMO, are based on the Raspberry Pi computer. For audio output the rPi requires a DAC, and there are two different types you can consider:
i) a "hat DAC" which plugs directly onto the rPi
or
ii) external DAC, connected preferably via USB. Good value commercial DAC choices here would be the SMSL Sanskrit 10th AK4493, Topping E30, or Topping D10s.
The rPi requires some DIY effort in terms of mounting into a case, and software configuration. Many of us here enjoy this challenge - this is a DIY forum - but if your DIY skills are limited, Audiophonics offers a kit with rPi 4, ES9038Q2M-based hat-DAC (DSD compatible), metal case, and OLED display.
AUDIOPHONICS RASPDAC MINI Kit DIY Streamer for Raspberry Pi 4 & DAC ES9038Q2M - Audiophonics
At 179 Euros this is very good value - and cheaper than a Sony UBP-X800M2 !
linuxfan
Sounds like a nice computer - but it's 1000 times more powerful than you need to play audio files!
Apparently...but if you work with a software to rip vinyls, you will see that you need a medium powerfull PC for audio recording and EDITING...
diyiggy
I would choose any DVD-Audio, SACD player, DVD & Blue-Ray device, that have audio RCA outputs as well as the usual HDMI used for the pictures...
I guess THIS is the best option for me.
Sounds like a nice computer - but it's 1000 times more powerful than you need to play audio files!
Apparently...but if you work with a software to rip vinyls, you will see that you need a medium powerfull PC for audio recording and EDITING...
diyiggy
I would choose any DVD-Audio, SACD player, DVD & Blue-Ray device, that have audio RCA outputs as well as the usual HDMI used for the pictures...
I guess THIS is the best option for me.
You could use a laptop with a CPU that can be configured to run at as low as 400MHz when you listen to music.
You could boost this CPU speed up to whatever is required, to rip/edit music files.
Make a nice, low noise linear power supply for that laptop. Remove the battery from the laptop.
Choose an Operating System that will install the bare minimum of applications - hint: Windows Server 2012
Install the Fildelizer; pay the man a few bucks to upgrade to Pro - it's worth every cent
You could boost this CPU speed up to whatever is required, to rip/edit music files.
Make a nice, low noise linear power supply for that laptop. Remove the battery from the laptop.
Choose an Operating System that will install the bare minimum of applications - hint: Windows Server 2012
Install the Fildelizer; pay the man a few bucks to upgrade to Pro - it's worth every cent
Sure, agreed. But that's for acquisition and production. Playback is a separate task, for which you don't need to use the same (powerful) device.
But I now see that you have a Denon DVD-3910, and this is certainly a well regarded player. I suggest you keep using it. The sound quality from this player will greatly exceed what you get from a cheap HDMI audio extractor.
One day in the future your DVD-3910 may break down. At that time consider making the transition from optical disc-based players to a computer file player.
Yes, Denon DVD-3910 is a VERY good player, even for DVD-Audio,but a bit lazy... Now almost all possibilities have been listed. Thanks everyone! 
It can be a little tweaked if it has some aop buffer stages, but most of the time Denon devices are acurate and have a good sound equilibrium. Sometimes it can be also the choice of the dc coupling cap, but it's not on the side of the lazyness you can hear, but more or less details, meaty or lighty sound...
If you're talking about snap/punch at the opposit of lazyness, then the problem is more about the choice of lytics decoupling caps after the dac chips till the rca outputs, regs tipology sometimes.
Sometimes it can be slighty improved, but again Denon knows what they do. Objectivly, good devices, also the oldest ones on the sounding area.There are cheap goods DVD+SACD players second hand that could cost few. I don't know about the Blue-Ray part as I given up from a long time all the DVD devices.
If you're talking about snap/punch at the opposit of lazyness, then the problem is more about the choice of lytics decoupling caps after the dac chips till the rca outputs, regs tipology sometimes.
Sometimes it can be slighty improved, but again Denon knows what they do. Objectivly, good devices, also the oldest ones on the sounding area.There are cheap goods DVD+SACD players second hand that could cost few. I don't know about the Blue-Ray part as I given up from a long time all the DVD devices.
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