So, I've got a TV sitting on an Ikea Kallax shelf (something similar to the attached image). I was thinking to fit a pair of speakers inside the outside squares. With some carpet and acoustic fabric, they could sit tightly in there.
Each cube's inside dimensions are 33*33*39cm. So about 25-30l of internal volume.
I've got a zoudio 4 channels dsp/amp I could use for this. I'm not aiming for the sky quality wise, just something better than the awful soundbar currently there.
I was thinking about a rather conventional two ways with a 6.5" midwoofer ? Something like monacor DT140 (20€) + SPH176 (40€), crossing at about 2K ?
So, with all that in mind, any advice/suggestions on how best to proceed or on other drivers ?
Each cube's inside dimensions are 33*33*39cm. So about 25-30l of internal volume.
I've got a zoudio 4 channels dsp/amp I could use for this. I'm not aiming for the sky quality wise, just something better than the awful soundbar currently there.
I was thinking about a rather conventional two ways with a 6.5" midwoofer ? Something like monacor DT140 (20€) + SPH176 (40€), crossing at about 2K ?
So, with all that in mind, any advice/suggestions on how best to proceed or on other drivers ?
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If you are not aiming for 'sky quality' sound and don't care if the bass is somewhat limited, then by far the easiest thing would be to use high performance full range drivers like Mark Audio, TangBand, or Fostex. Don't go the real cheap route, but use one of their higher end 5" or 6" FR models.
Then it becomes very simple. No crossover worries. Done right it will probably sound very good for everyday TV listening. Certainly better than the speaker bar you don't like.
Then it becomes very simple. No crossover worries. Done right it will probably sound very good for everyday TV listening. Certainly better than the speaker bar you don't like.
My concern with FR is dispersion in the highs. The speakers wouldn't be that far aside and the listening area is quite wide and not that deep.
Btw, budget is about 150€ for the drivers.
Btw, budget is about 150€ for the drivers.
Yeah, in that case a 2-way crossed over at about 2K is probably your best bet.
There are lots of great sounding 2-way kits available in your price range from companies like Meniscus Audio, Madisound, and GR Research in the US, and I'm sure some similar companies in Europe.
However, it might not be useful to invest too much in drivers with that amplifier considering its power and distortion performance.
There are lots of great sounding 2-way kits available in your price range from companies like Meniscus Audio, Madisound, and GR Research in the US, and I'm sure some similar companies in Europe.
However, it might not be useful to invest too much in drivers with that amplifier considering its power and distortion performance.
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If you do already all the action, why not spend a little more and get a really modern high-end coaxial TB W6-2313, with a wonderful dispersion and beautiful front.
SUG2-25 - 6.5" 2 Way Coaxial Bookshelf Enclosure Suggestion - TB SPEAKER CO., LTD.
the link has data for enclosure and crossover
There has been dicussion here
TB new line of Coax FR drivers
SUG2-25 - 6.5" 2 Way Coaxial Bookshelf Enclosure Suggestion - TB SPEAKER CO., LTD.
the link has data for enclosure and crossover
There has been dicussion here
TB new line of Coax FR drivers
I've actually built a pair of active speakers with the w6-2313.: Speakers for a computer desk against a wall ?
They are awesome but too pricey for the project. They deserve better amplification too.
They are awesome but too pricey for the project. They deserve better amplification too.
Considering coaxial drivers... any experience with the sica 6.5C1.5CP, 8+8 ? At 60€/pc, it seems like an interesting budget alternative to the TB.
Hi,
I have the Kallax shelf with 4x2 shelves and it is lying down. TV is standing on it.
I used to have speakers in the top left and right shelves. They were actually hanging in the ceiling of the shelf to get the acoustic image as high as possible (or close to the TV).
I now have floorstanding speakers instead. And to be honest the imaging, depth and height is much better now.
But I still have my subwoofer in the shelf. I used two shelves to have a 50L subwoofer with a 12" sub. It visually disappears, really cool to have a big subwoofer in an acoustically great position and you barely notice it is there. -3dB at 15Hz in my couch. Bass comes from the middle, not some corner of the room. Works great.
I would mount the midranges and tweeters as high as possible in the shelf. And not expect so much depth, height or width. It is a really space efficient way to build speakers though.
I have the Kallax shelf with 4x2 shelves and it is lying down. TV is standing on it.
I used to have speakers in the top left and right shelves. They were actually hanging in the ceiling of the shelf to get the acoustic image as high as possible (or close to the TV).
I now have floorstanding speakers instead. And to be honest the imaging, depth and height is much better now.
But I still have my subwoofer in the shelf. I used two shelves to have a 50L subwoofer with a 12" sub. It visually disappears, really cool to have a big subwoofer in an acoustically great position and you barely notice it is there. -3dB at 15Hz in my couch. Bass comes from the middle, not some corner of the room. Works great.
I would mount the midranges and tweeters as high as possible in the shelf. And not expect so much depth, height or width. It is a really space efficient way to build speakers though.