These guys have what look to be some very interesting yet affordable drivers such as this little guy...
Peerless by Tymphany SDS-160F25PR01-08 6-1/2" Paper Cone Woofer Speaker
What are your experiences with regard to their quality?
Also is this a different company than just plain "Peerless"?
Peerless by Tymphany SDS-160F25PR01-08 6-1/2" Paper Cone Woofer Speaker
What are your experiences with regard to their quality?
Also is this a different company than just plain "Peerless"?
Tymphany also took over Vifa.
I have purchased and used 6.5" and 10" drivers.
Peerless by Tymphany NE180W-08 6-1/2" Fiber Cone Woofer Speaker
Mine were a bit higher-end than the stamped metal baskets, mine are aluminum, but the build quality is what matters.
They are very good materials and build quality.
I also have Peerless by Tymphany 12" 12 ohm woofers in stamped baskets and they are also well put together.
I have purchased and used 6.5" and 10" drivers.
Peerless by Tymphany NE180W-08 6-1/2" Fiber Cone Woofer Speaker
Mine were a bit higher-end than the stamped metal baskets, mine are aluminum, but the build quality is what matters.
They are very good materials and build quality.
I also have Peerless by Tymphany 12" 12 ohm woofers in stamped baskets and they are also well put together.
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Not exactly an everyday opportunity that one can buy so much quality for such a reasonable price. Get a dozen while it lasts and then some more and save these for a 6' tall loudspeaker.
The 830xxx series are really good, with a very smooth top end. I used them in desktop 2-ways.
$20 is hard to beat, but another contendor for great budget 5-6" speakers is the FaitalPro series. They are more expensive but also have much better power handling.
$20 is hard to beat, but another contendor for great budget 5-6" speakers is the FaitalPro series. They are more expensive but also have much better power handling.
If I were in charge of the checkbook I would grab 18 of them for a high efficiency project. 9 per side in a square pattern should be dandy.
Excellent driver in every way. Use it on a couple of my commercial offerings. Great quality, at least so far and right on spec. A real sleeper.
+1 on what's been said.
The 6.5" that vdi_nenna mentioned is measured here.
Timothy Feleppa's Pages: Speaker Measurements - Woofers 5" to 8"
It looks like their stuff is indeed 'right on spec'.
I'm glad to see John Busch recommends the cheap 6.5". Cheap and good is nice, and this is one of the few drivers I can get where postage is free.
I have the little NE65 'full range' drivers. They sound and measure well. The petite Tymphany compression drivers also seem OK, based on a quick test.
The 6.5" that vdi_nenna mentioned is measured here.
Timothy Feleppa's Pages: Speaker Measurements - Woofers 5" to 8"
It looks like their stuff is indeed 'right on spec'.
I'm glad to see John Busch recommends the cheap 6.5". Cheap and good is nice, and this is one of the few drivers I can get where postage is free.
I have the little NE65 'full range' drivers. They sound and measure well. The petite Tymphany compression drivers also seem OK, based on a quick test.
I use its predescor, still in production. Very high price/performance. Build quality is good at this price. Cone on both SDS 6.5" offerings has a mild resonance.
They have merely average distortion performance in the upper midrange and treble, due to a fairly basic motor design. That simple motor also makes the cone breakup look less severe than it is. It's hard to argue for $17 though.
Peerless by Tymphany SDS-160F25PR01-08 6-1/2" Paper Cone Woofer Speaker
Certainly a great bargain! IF it does what you want. What it doesn't have is a cast chassis and damping rings in the motor to reduce inductance. But nor do most woofers.
Seems to be ideal for a 30L closed box three way. Maybe even two wired in series for bass duties.
It looks like hard work for a two way with that peak around 4kHz. Paul Carmody's Tarkus gets away with a woofer like that as a mid, but only because he can impedance correct it with an attenuator and cross at 2kHz, which IMO just gives the tweeter a hard time. Stuff like Peerless 830874 is tidier in the midrange.
But, yes, hours of fun there. Peerless make some admirable drivers.
Certainly a great bargain! IF it does what you want. What it doesn't have is a cast chassis and damping rings in the motor to reduce inductance. But nor do most woofers.
Seems to be ideal for a 30L closed box three way. Maybe even two wired in series for bass duties.
It looks like hard work for a two way with that peak around 4kHz. Paul Carmody's Tarkus gets away with a woofer like that as a mid, but only because he can impedance correct it with an attenuator and cross at 2kHz, which IMO just gives the tweeter a hard time. Stuff like Peerless 830874 is tidier in the midrange.
But, yes, hours of fun there. Peerless make some admirable drivers.
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I use the 830657 (two of them) in a tappered transmission line long 1.9m and they do work great. Qts however is slightly higher than the published spec.
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If you want 6 per side in a 2.5 way mmtmmmm then take a look at this. (The 830657 version)
Cheapie build - Peerless 5 driver 2.5 way MTMMM
It's my next build after my 3 ways
Cheapie build - Peerless 5 driver 2.5 way MTMMM
It's my next build after my 3 ways
Those who enjoy expensive crossover components(or abhor circuit complexity) would be better off buying the +15-20$ more HDS versions. Much smoother and simpler to deal with.
Also these are not sale prices, been about the same for several years. In the States list prices are often meaningless. Phono cartridges used to list for 10-20x the selling price here, i.e.Grado in the Seventies.
So- for a three-way these have great value, you can cross far away from the breakup. For a two-way, unless you just like a challenge, spend a little to save a little to a lot.
Also these are not sale prices, been about the same for several years. In the States list prices are often meaningless. Phono cartridges used to list for 10-20x the selling price here, i.e.Grado in the Seventies.
So- for a three-way these have great value, you can cross far away from the breakup. For a two-way, unless you just like a challenge, spend a little to save a little to a lot.
Down under the HDS versions are double or triple the price. I.e AUD $35 for the 830657 but $80 or $100 for the poly or nomex HDS versions. We aren't so fortunate with pricing and shipping here as you might be in Europe or the states
Seems like a bargain?
https://cpc.farnell.com/peerless-by...MIk-i7rPvQ5QIVh63tCh3bHwPUEAQYBCABEgLz8vD_BwE
https://cpc.farnell.com/peerless-by...MIk-i7rPvQ5QIVh63tCh3bHwPUEAQYBCABEgLz8vD_BwE
It is a super bargain. Get some while it lasts. I'd pair two of these to a Peerless bc25tg15-04 in a TMM configuration.
Wake-up call for old thread. Has anyone recently done something with SDS-160F25PR01-08? I'm looking inspiration for next summer project. Tweeter to mate will probably be SB Acoustic SB19ST.
I did a 'test build' with the SDS160 and a Vifa BC25TG15 tweeter; it was OK but lacked something, no doubt due to my alleged crossover skills. I used to have the 830657 and thought they sounded the same as the SDS160, except the latter has more Xmax. Official measurements such as FR, ZMA, Fs and qts are almost the same.
I think either Peerless driver is most comfortable with a 2,000 Hz XO and the SB probably won't be comfortable crossing that low, it's a 3/4" tweeter. SB makes several 1 tweeters which could do the job, but.
There are quite a few builds with the 830657, some of which use the Vifa BC25 and others a SEAS; I think you could reasonably substitute the SDS160 for it in those projects. For example:
https://www.lautsprechershop.de/hifi/startairkit_en.htm
https://zelfbouwaudio.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15285
Geoff
I think either Peerless driver is most comfortable with a 2,000 Hz XO and the SB probably won't be comfortable crossing that low, it's a 3/4" tweeter. SB makes several 1 tweeters which could do the job, but.
There are quite a few builds with the 830657, some of which use the Vifa BC25 and others a SEAS; I think you could reasonably substitute the SDS160 for it in those projects. For example:
https://www.lautsprechershop.de/hifi/startairkit_en.htm
https://zelfbouwaudio.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15285
Geoff
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