I wasn't talking about throwing science out altogether. Just the papers that are rejected because of conflict with engineer prior beliefs. Like I said, I've seen it happen here. I didn't say you were involved.
Science. Now there’s a broad topic. Which science are we getting all hung up on now? Electronics, physics, biology, psychoacoustics, neuroscience?
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Whicever, I hope it's the "good" science and not the "bad" science.
https://calteches.library.caltech.edu/51/2/CargoCult.htm
https://calteches.library.caltech.edu/51/2/CargoCult.htm
Anybody here use ferrites to clean up power for analog or digital supply rails for sensitive chips/circuitry?
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/general-purpose-dac-clock-board.413001/post-7765137
Accept or reject the findings? Cargo cult? Or maybe the rote use of ferrites for power rails is the real cargo cult?
Interesting to hear opinions on the technical/scientific merits, including preference for one way or the other.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/general-purpose-dac-clock-board.413001/post-7765137
Accept or reject the findings? Cargo cult? Or maybe the rote use of ferrites for power rails is the real cargo cult?
Interesting to hear opinions on the technical/scientific merits, including preference for one way or the other.
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Because I believe that someone have better listening skills than me, so I always want to make my amplifier distortion as low as possible without much complex. Sometime I trade off distortion with slew rate. Although I can make low distortion at simulation, but I think harmonic distortion profile also important. My first goal is how to make good and stable stereo imaging with solid state amplifier. Sometimes an amplifier can sound good with certain recording (like slow beat music with few music instrument and low dynamic) and sound bad with other recording. Why make high distortion amplifier if you can make lower distortion with almost same budget? You want to make effect box or you cannot make low distortion amplifier?
I am not an ABX fan. My two compared amps are JLH 1969 and RAS ELD. These two systems are as different as chalk is from cheese. JLH is class A with quite a bit of hash in the mix. ELD on the other hand has zero distortion. Listening to JLH is pleasant, you get the feel of hot custard while ELD is more like crystal class smashing, with harmonics some -168 dB down. Coming from the test and measurement industry you develop to exceed anything out there. If you can't then join the ABX crowd and speculate about your inabilities and develop adjectives to describe things that you cannot comprehend.
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I think Tom has already stated to the effect that he knows that two amps measuring very well in terms of distortion and noise may not equally well reproduce sound stage.
Couldn't agree more with some observation to that effect myself.
If you are going to measure, then measure everything that matters to listeners, not those few things you happen to know how to measure most precisely.
You can only hear on your system that a mastering and mixing engineer has concocted for you to hear. You can only hear distortion of any kind that you recognise absolutely. It is comparing the ugliest and most beautiful woman in the world in bed with the lights off.
Well, then you should complain to the recording engineer that his mix is too 'crystal glass smashing' , and that you need to use a distorting and hashing amp to make it listenable - to you. If I were you I would look around in the music product area for a nice flexible effect box. With your taste, chances are it will improve your experience!
Jan
It is possible to find support for almost any opinion in the internet. But that article (or the Speeding Edge site) does not mention anything about audibility so using that material to support claims of audibility is bordering cargo cult.
For opposing point of view on the use of ferrites how about Ott? Or this guide which you yourself posted before:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...trace-impedance-crosstalk.392805/post-7759533
This is my taste, to be perfect unlike you gadget box boys. DSP and all that nonsense. Once you experience perfection then you cannot go back unfortunately. Do you see me complaining anywhere, unfortunate stupid comment as usual.
So Jan what you are saying is your choice of adjectives are better than everyone, how come, ludicrous. Go back to your gramophone and be happy.
Nico, I don't see that you want it to be perfect. You yourself stated that you prefer your distorting and hashing amp over the crystal clear low distortion one (or words to that effect). Unless you have a definition of perfect I have missed?
Personally, I would define 'perfect' as the amp that gives out what is put in, nothing added, nothing taken away.
But I understand that sometimes people say 'perfect' when they mean 'preferred'.
We should be clear what we mean.
Jan
Personally, I would define 'perfect' as the amp that gives out what is put in, nothing added, nothing taken away.
But I understand that sometimes people say 'perfect' when they mean 'preferred'.
We should be clear what we mean.
Jan
There are as many traduction of the word "perfection" as there are human being on earth , what yours ??
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Please note that I absolutely do not wish to argue with you or anyone else, but in my opinion your statement is not true.
Perhaps you are just saying it for the sake of it, don't know.
Experiences in life are not at all as singular as rationalists (if any) would exaggeratedly lead us to believe.
In trying to be singular yours is only a simplification and as such it is not true. IMO
I am not trying to be singular ,I am as much as you are and as all of the people are , which doesn't mean we doesn't have many in common
perfection is totally and absolutely singular , not because I want it , but because it is related to someONE criteria
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perfection is totally and absolutely singular , not because I want it , but because it is related to someONE criteria
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Your statement was, not you.
And for me it remains a simplification that I personally, at least in this context, do not find acceptable.
IMO It's an old and invented story about listening preferences.
If any, one's preferences come after that a system sounds good, not before, otherwise one is not aware of what he is hearing.
Edit to add "perfection" definition from The Oxford Languages.
perfection: the action or process of improving something until it is faultless.
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Ok , but who decide in a first place a system sound good or not , me , you , or some audio guru's 😳
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Perfect does exist, being near too or exceed what can be measured with current equipment is an objective. I am not saying it sounds good or bad, what I am saying is that I perceive a JLH being okay playing in the background and no attention paid to it. It would seem less fatiguing than having to hear a flea walking on my neighbour's cat trying to resolve whether he is wearing sneakers or combat boots. If you are presented with audible distortion you will hear it, if not you will ignore it and for all practical implications it does not exist and deemed perfect.