Thanks for resurrecting my old thread. I don't think my perception can be 'fixed' , just the way my brain works, I was hoping to find more people like me that have aphantaisa, I found this site, there are lots of us out there, just not many into diy audio, Here is a link to a site that can it explain it if you are interested.
https://aphantasia.com/
https://aphantasia.com/
Whenever I want to enhance the depth of music and enable a 3D effect, I use a neat little device based on the Hughs Sound Retrieval System (SRS).
Just a touch of the adjustable "space control" makes the sound seem like its farther than the walls of the living room.
It might still be available used on some websites as the "Vivid 3D" or SRS systems.
Just a touch of the adjustable "space control" makes the sound seem like its farther than the walls of the living room.
It might still be available used on some websites as the "Vivid 3D" or SRS systems.
I honestly couldn't tell you if the performer wanted something that was a "wanted" personal preference of mine.
I also don't know where that question came from.
and the performer/producer was really hoping to bring you/us the studio sound they heard on the "final cut", wasn't it? This is the main task of AUDIO technology. The one for which the whole site 🙂
The "question" is precisely to hear the AUTHOR'S sound thought, and not our domestic mockery of it. Sorry for being direct
Using your own words, if "the studio sound they heard" fits their recording studio but not within your walls, then you pass on the recording?
Irregardless of what the studio or performer thinks does, or chooses, I have the choice to do with my own stereo system as "I" please as well.
Your argument is laden with holes, and suggests audio-snobbery, and adhering to some belief that having the freedom to do as one desires is a wrong thing to do.
My living room isn't the studio or holds the same "studio sound" that you talk of.
I'm sure others will agree.
In my opinion, AUDIO FREEDOM is to be able to quickly "adjust" your room (the room for the consumption of an audio product) to ANY studio or audience (theater, concert hall, etc.). Including the original. No matter how fantastic it may look, it is still technically possible.
Of course, having such a tool, you can somehow mock the author's intention. So freedom is complete 🙂. But you can also listen to what the author actually offers to listeners.
Of course, having such a tool, you can somehow mock the author's intention. So freedom is complete 🙂. But you can also listen to what the author actually offers to listeners.
This is really interesting. I am on the other end of the spectrum with hyperphantasia, I imagine things in very high detail. I don’t think it affects the stereo image for me other than it’s never good enough. A real live concert is fantastic compared to anything over a stereo, even the megabux ones in the audio store.
I often wonder about the younger generations who have not played outside as kids, how do they perceive stereo? I’ve talked with many who didn’t realize the left and right earbuds had different information on them and didn’t know why they were marked left and right.
I often wonder about the younger generations who have not played outside as kids, how do they perceive stereo? I’ve talked with many who didn’t realize the left and right earbuds had different information on them and didn’t know why they were marked left and right.
Unless you are at the mixing and mastering sessions, no you can not. To think so is highly naïve.
And most producers I’ve talked with were keen to hear their work “on a truly great system.”. Not because they thought it would be closer to their intent, but because it would sound awesome.
Exactly. Conversations I've had with musicians' impressions of their own play back is typically disappointment at the loss of fidelity and dynamic quality but it's considered a given and nature of the beast so to speak and is not really talked about negatively; instead, surprisingly.
Have you ever tried headphones? It would be interesting to know if you get the "music in my head" thing from them.
Mike
Arthur! You are not alone. And from my years of experience with audio production, I strongly believe that REAL musician-producers feel the same way when they create a piece. And that's why, I do not agree that the "younger generation" hears worse 🙂.
1. Yes, you definitely noticed that in order to restore the acoustic field in the studio, "knowledge" of the conditions for creating an audio product is required. But the strangest thing here is that this "knowledge" is OBJECTIVE and does not depend on the psychology of the listener. But it depends on his anthropometry, posture, etc. 🙂))).
2. Answering Arthur, I immediately thought of the Second Led Zeppelin. Spatial impressions from it are SUSTAINABLE, as many figurative as the Music itself that fills it. And at one time I was simply shocked that other listeners had the same impressions. My grown children hear it too. Yes, it depends on the hardware.
I'm thinking of posting some work on this topic. It's probably free here. But not tomorrow 🙂.
By the way, many researchers have long known the problems of both field synthesis and stimulus synthesis (the two main directions today). Therefore, if the publication takes place, then under the auspices of "copy left".
Have you discovered that the hardware can affect the result, how the software can be presented?
If you are lucky with the choice of hardware, you can get a spectacularly large and deep soundstage.
Not all hardware can reproduce this.
It's a jungle out there.
The software, music recordings vary greatly in quality. Unfortunately, they have gotten worse over time and most of them fit headphones these days. The 70s, 80s and 90s were the pinnacle of high quality recordings.
so here. my work is dedicated to this jungle 🙂
and let me disagree with you that the golden era of sound (audio) technology ended like a wonderful childhood day. Everything is just getting started! 🙂
I hope so too.
That we will have a hifi renaissance again. Unfortunately, we see fewer and fewer hifi stores in the country and the world. Unfortunately, interest is waning. Maybe it's different where you live?
So, the very concept of "Hi Fi" MUST undergo a change. The listener's objective acoustic stimulus (acoustic pressure at the inputs to the auditory canals) must be accurately conveyed, not "flat frequency response" or "low harmonics". And this is not my discovery. Well, etc. In short, I will not get ahead of myself. Patience.
I think it will be a new branch with my start topic. Here I will post a link to it when the time comes and laziness passes 🙂 I will only note here .... Of course, and this is known, there are a lot of "pitfalls" in the synthesis of both fields and incentives. But it is this approach that is now laying down and dictating new rules for the game in audio.
Does your hyperphantasia effect your other senses? Can you imagine smells and tastes for instance? For me, I can't feel any senses in my imagination, no pictures, sounds or smells. I started this thread speculating it is the reason the stereo phenomena doesn't work for me. I guess every system creates a good sound stage for you.