What is the Universe expanding into..

Do you think there was anything before the big bang?

  • I don't think there was anything before the Big Bang

    Votes: 56 12.5%
  • I think something existed before the Big Bang

    Votes: 200 44.7%
  • I don't think the big bang happened

    Votes: 54 12.1%
  • I think the universe is part of a mutiverse

    Votes: 201 45.0%

  • Total voters
    447
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I've been reading that the role of DNA, beyond the initiation of life's chemistry, could be to generate and maintain particular structures and processes in biological systems using information and energy to lower entropy, for a period of time.

This is likened to a parent using information to direct effort (energy) to bring about order in a teenager's desk area - see attachment.

The deduction is that DNA is the prime cause or source of biological order and the resolution of the paradox posed by the second law of thermodynamics.

I read about it here: Understanding the Thermodynamics of Biological Order | The American Biology Teacher | University of California Press
 

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Photons have no mass TNT. Unlikely they would collapse in a Big Crunch. Brian Cox gave the time for all matter to evaporate into photons as ‘10 billion trillion trillion years’.

I think we are safe 🙂

No but they have energy - so the end (big crunch) ends up in a giant mass->energy transfer... E=mcc... and the beginning the reversed; energy -> mass i.e. the big bang.

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Knowledgeable people lurk towards smugness when facing ignorance.
... I guess that's natural selection in practice.

I'm always willing to adapt and change - just ask my wife! 😉

I was sure he was talking about me. 😎

I was expanding on the "Ignorance is bliss" reference from Galu, and hypothesizing as to why we're, still, to this date, seemingly stuck with the basest of instincts as the major driving factors for existence.
I guess it's fairly self explanatory what happens if some smug know-it-all brings up a witty comment in the wrong setting, we've all been there at some point.
No wonder we're still behaving as neanderthals, for a quite large number of people it's always important to be better than your neighbours and peers some way or another.
Sort of explains itself as the vast majority of the population is chasing specific genetic physiologic traits.

So, that's what I meant. I merely try to condense the text, to remove the superfluous content as much as possible and be left with just the very core of it. Not a message intended for any specific individual.
 
I didn't think your remark was directed at me, KaffiMann - not that I'd take umbrage if it had been! I simply made a 'witty' comment based on your mention of natural selection.

P.S. I can't count the number of times I've made a witty comment in the wrong setting. I now abstain from public speaking, but am willing to risk my arm on this forum! 😉
 
These cycles are the only true infinite physical entity. Have been and will go on for ever.
Cue 'The Endless Universe'!

The Endless Universe: A Brief Introduction

"The universe undergoes an endless sequence of cycles in which it contracts in a big crunch and re-emerges in an expanding big bang, with trillions of years of evolution in between. The temperature and density of the universe do not become infinite at any point in the cycle."
There are several cyclic cosmological models: Cyclic model - Wikipedia
 
No but they have energy - so the end (big crunch) ends up in a giant mass->energy transfer... E=mcc... and the beginning the reversed; energy -> mass i.e. the big bang.

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Energy doesn’t behave like physical entities with mass ie energy doesn’t attract energy unlike objects with mass attract each other.

But, this is 10 Billion Trillion Trillion yrs into the future. Relax!

(let’s see if I can get this right: 10 000000000 000000000000 00000000000 years - if I missed a zero out it’s because I’m cross-eyed after 3 wines)
 
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The residual heat is what is left after the Big Bang and is about 3 degrees above absolute zero and called the cosmic microwave background’ or CMB discovered by Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson in the 1960’s. But, that is not what is driving the expansion of the universe. ‘Dark Energy’ is responsible for that, but exactly what it is not known. The CMB became the dominant cosmic force between 7 and 9 billion yrs ago (exact figure depending on who you read). What is known is that it is very smooth throughout the cosmos, unlike CMB and gravity which are quite ‘lumpy’ or anisotropic to use the technical term.
 
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