What is the Universe expanding into..

Do you think there was anything before the big bang?

  • I don't think there was anything before the Big Bang

    Votes: 56 12.5%
  • I think something existed before the Big Bang

    Votes: 200 44.7%
  • I don't think the big bang happened

    Votes: 54 12.1%
  • I think the universe is part of a mutiverse

    Votes: 201 45.0%

  • Total voters
    447
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I just saw yet another documentary, "CERN and the Sense of Beaurty." While it does show the comments of several scientists involved, it's less technical than "Particle Fever" but maybe a bit more philosophical.

There's this guy, not shown in the trailer below, whose desk and table behind him are loaded with stacks of papers over a foot high, and I can only wonder how or if he keeps track of them all. I vaguely recall Bob Pease writing about his office being similarly organized (or not!).

CERN and the Sense of Beauty | OFFICIAL TRAILER | A Film by Valerio Jalongo - YouTube
 
I never thought a discussion on the use of car speakers in home hi-fi would involve Tesla numbers.

But there you go, it's a funny old world! 😎

"If you only knew the significence of 3, 6 and 9, then you would have the key to the universe." - Nikola Tesla

What's the meaning of 369? - Quora
 

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I watched "Cern - The Sense of Beauty".

SYNOPSIS
Revealing the secrets of CERN, Europe's research laboratory operating the largest particle physics laboratory in the world. Giant machines capture images as mysterious as art, beauty and harmony becoming scientific models. Some at CERN believe in God, some believe in numbers. But all realize that the elusive nature of matter can only be understood with a sixth sense: the sense of beauty.

Cern - The Sense of Beauty | Full Documentary Movie - YouTube

Big on philosophical opinions from various CERN researchers. Good at conveying the sheer hugeness of the LHC. Also good at conveying the visual incomprehensibility of the Quantum World.

Rather tedious for lack of detail, and overdid the artistic interpretations and spooky music.

I did enjoy the 40,000-y-o cave paintings from France. Very well painted, IMO.

Finished on an anti-climax. The 750GeV blip in 2016 was a statistical error. Not new physics.


Have investigated what I call the Tesla Polynomial. Incorporates 3-6-9.

Will post a "Magnum Opus" on it soon if sufficient demand. Very interesting. But no spoilers. 😀
 
While awaiting Steve's magnum opus, let's reveal "The magic of 9".

The digit sum of a number in a given number base is the sum of all its digits.

For example, the digit sum of the base 10 number 8046 would be 8 + 0 + 4 + 6 = 18.

Now, let's look at one of the most common shapes in the cosmos - the circle.

A full circle has 360 degrees which have a digit sum of 3 + 6 + 0 = 9

Half the circle and the 180 degrees have a digit sum of 1 + 8 + 0 = 9

Half again and the 90 degrees have a digit sum of 9 + 0 = 9

Spookily, as you continue to half and half again the digit sum remains 9 - check it out yourselves for 22.5 degrees and 11.25 degrees! :gasp:
 
I think the Standard Model has legs yet. But needs a new approach. That Weinberg (sad) article led me to this months Night sky:

Night sky highlights - August 2021 | Royal Museums Greenwich

I have been spotting a brightening Venus in the early Evening sky, and Jupiter in the late evening. But forgot to look for Saturn to Jupiter's right. Of course when last seen in conjunction in the evening sky was last Christmas,..

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I'm not sure if I dreamed this but in 400 years time Jupiter will pass directly in front of Saturn. Also the Perseids meteors 11-13 August. Have seen them when on holiday.
Good show.

My self-styled "Tesla Polynomial" is an interesting Rabbithole. Taking me into Quadratics, Cubics and Quartics with interesting discriminants due to symmetrical roots or mean points like 3,6,9. I may be some time knocking it into shape... 😱
 
Why do you say new approach Steve?

(I have ‘The First Three Minutes’ - quite heavy going for a layman like me, so I am going to re-read it. At the back of the book, he has an update written in the late 1990’s IIRC - not much changed from what Weinberg had predicted theoretically in 1967 when he first wrote the book. A seriously gifted man. )
 
Murray Gel-Mann was also one of the big hitters involved in the Standard Model. But he apparently was quite a character ( full professor at 22) and did not suffer fools lightly, eg (maybe an apocryphal story)

‘If I have seen further . . . It’s because I’ve been surrounded by midgets’
 
Talking about Asimov, I pulled out my copy of his non-fiction book, "The Subatomic Monster".

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In the final chapter, he compresses the 15 billion year* history of the Universe into a single year and marks off significant events along the length of the year using an ordinary arithmetical scale. I copy it here for interest.

The Universe Year

The Big Bang - January 1, 12:00 AM
Subatomic particles form - January 1, 12:00:13 AM
Hydrogen & helium atoms form - January 1, 12:10 AM
Atoms form galaxy-sized gas clouds - January 3, 10 AM
The Milky Way galaxy forms - February 18
The solar system forms - September 9
Life begins on Earth - October 6
First land life on Earth - December 20
First hominids appear - December 31, 9.40 PM
History begins - December 31, 11:59:50 PM

* Isaac generally used 15 billion years in his writings. That makes each "Day" of the imaginary "Universe Year" 41 million real years long.
 
BTW, if you’re a photon (hypothetically of course), the universe is only a few years old.

One of the things I ponder.
If a photon somehow is conscious, is it the observer creating the universe?
If so, is its maxed out speed an illusion, therefore being every "where" simultaneously?
Is there just the one photon, practically dimensionless, rendering a Big Bang, or Big Crunch moot, with space only existing to give the subjective illusion of time for observation /reference?
If so, does one photon/molecule casting the illusion of space-time explain quantum entanglement, since distance is non existent without time, and the molecule is effectively everywhere and hypothetically aware of all at the same time?
Is the universe not really expanding at all, but instead is the photon awareness expanding, at its speed of thought?
Maybe we're all a photonic dream of a photonic dreamer.
I apologize for the unfocused nature of the random thoughts here; I'm not a mathematician and cannot convert these thoughts into equations to clarify.
 
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