It's no evidence yet but profilaxis alert : after several cases the investigated and find a common factor, dunno where I heard that as I'm doing always many things in the same time, watch several countries TV, webMedia, while doing others things, etc !
I try to re find the source, maybe a doctor here could explain : it seems it has to see with breathing distress when the lungs are too much impacted in intensive care situation...
Edit : got ir : french hospitals : Anti-inflammatories may aggravate Covid-19, France advises | World news | The Guardian :
I try to re find the source, maybe a doctor here could explain : it seems it has to see with breathing distress when the lungs are too much impacted in intensive care situation...
Edit : got ir : french hospitals : Anti-inflammatories may aggravate Covid-19, France advises | World news | The Guardian :
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I see, yes the French have warned. Hopefully there will be more info. I assume it covers naproxen and similar drugs as well. Naproxen actually has shown antiviral effects in some studies but with this virus being so new there is nothing conclusive.
You already knew but you asked ?
Anyway I beleive the guys that have tried to save these few cases on youth people in recovry units just gave the information cause they don't care about studies in such real life situation ? Who knows ?
Anyway I beleive the guys that have tried to save these few cases on youth people in recovry units just gave the information cause they don't care about studies in such real life situation ? Who knows ?
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Northfork, Long Island. I don't want to spread my town's name myself, but you can probably easily search it on the net...
And now it's 14 positive including a local school stuff.
It was 4 positive three days ago.
I'm a little scared...
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I see. Well, not sure about your age and pre-existing conditions but on the bright side if you did get it now, you’ll get treatment before capacity runs out and then you won’t have to worry for the next few months.
My co-worker's wife is a doctor at North Shore LIJ and they have had a number of positive tests, but I don’t think it’s pandemonium yet.
Believe one should be prudent with that... seems Spain, France, Germany and Italy are in crisis and have no time to be prudent on some declaratives as it had in China few weeks ago.
They all said China was terrible with their people as there is a western reflex about the way they lead. But it seems social distanciation IS a great help to slow down the pandemyto manage it with more efficienty to save lives. American scientists alerted already about that i readed...
They all said China was terrible with their people as there is a western reflex about the way they lead. But it seems social distanciation IS a great help to slow down the pandemyto manage it with more efficienty to save lives. American scientists alerted already about that i readed...
Belgium is locked down. All restaurants, bars etc closed for next three weeks. All sports and other events cancelled. Libraries, schools, public organisations, closed.
Hospitals only allow single visitors for patients, but is strongly discouraged. Even weddings are cancelled or only done in small family circle. Funerals recommended only next of kin, not 100's of friends etc.
France, Spain follow suit, Netherlands probably also today.
It sounds draconian but very effective to slow down the spread and flatten the peak so that health services are not overwhelmed.
Jan
Hospitals only allow single visitors for patients, but is strongly discouraged. Even weddings are cancelled or only done in small family circle. Funerals recommended only next of kin, not 100's of friends etc.
France, Spain follow suit, Netherlands probably also today.
It sounds draconian but very effective to slow down the spread and flatten the peak so that health services are not overwhelmed.
Jan
There was no restriction on the number entering the hospital, my brother waited in a lounge area whilst I saw her then went in after me.
It's not draconian and its certainly not very effective.
Here in the Lombardy region of Italy similar provisions were taken 3 weeks ago and there is nothing to indicate that they have been effective in reducing infections. It is now 10 days that the restrictions have become much more severe and we are still to waiting for signs of a bend in the curve....
The only documented effective measures were those taken in Wuhan and we are still very, very far from these here in europe.
It is not only what the government decrees, but also how well the population follows it. Wuhan is in a tightly controlled country and people have no choice but to follow. In Italy that is different.
In European countries this is less easy, people are a) stupid and b) decide for themselves.
Example: here in Belgium the decree was to close all restaurants and cafés from Friday evening. So lots of people went on Friday to bars and cafés to 'profit' one last time, much more crowded than usual, people practically sitting on each other's lap. That one evening probably spiked the infections by a lot. Yes, a) people are stupid.
In some situations you'd be better off with a strong dictator.
Jan
In European countries this is less easy, people are a) stupid and b) decide for themselves.
Example: here in Belgium the decree was to close all restaurants and cafés from Friday evening. So lots of people went on Friday to bars and cafés to 'profit' one last time, much more crowded than usual, people practically sitting on each other's lap. That one evening probably spiked the infections by a lot. Yes, a) people are stupid.
In some situations you'd be better off with a strong dictator.
Jan
You are absolutely right, but from recent experience I can tell you that the moment come when people get scared to death and start to do the only safe thing:
STAY HOME! Can't repeat this enough.
With two kids (home from school), Netflix and the diyAudio hobby it is actually not to bad😉
STAY HOME! Can't repeat this enough.
With two kids (home from school), Netflix and the diyAudio hobby it is actually not to bad😉
Once a city imposes restrictions, everyone stays at home. I think I'd read that something like 70% of infections in China came from family members.
I believe that once restrictions are put into place people, who are ill, come home and one by one everyone in the family is infected. It takes a while to become sick and start to show symptoms and 3 weeks till death (in the rare cases where that happens.) I would make sense then that the numbers would continue to rise for a while after restrictions are put into place.
In time though the number of new infections should start to decrease...
(This is all just a personal theory with no proof or evidence.)
I'd noticed that there are now twice as many recovered on the Diamond Princes as there are active cases (how long ago was that now? Clearly it takes a while for some to get over this.) And only 15 critical cases. It looks like the cruise ship is going to be a 1% CFR. So it looks like with good care and uncrowded hospitals the death rate is 1% but when hospitals are overwhelmed that number can double or even triple...
When Lombardy hospitals were overwhelmed the death rate spiked at 8%.
According to wiki the Italian health care system based on results was rated No2 in the world behind France.
According to wiki the Italian health care system based on results was rated No2 in the world behind France.
Wow, I had no idea it'd gone up to 8% in Lombardy. That makes me think that any short term efforts to slow the spread would be justified in spite of the enormous economic consequences.
Close the schools, cancel the large scale events...etc.
I see some governments that don't seem to be taking this seriously enough...perhaps worried about the economic fallout? I'm not sure, but some responses don't make sense to me.
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