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They stopped the flights from China ? what are the basic traveller here ? Chineese worker, manager, state employee ? Sure the business is not profiting to local people as much it should be... lot of chineese farming also as far I'm understanding.



Hope all will be ok for wife's family if living there.

I don't know if they really stopped.
In the case of Zimbabwe the Chinese built their own airstrip so it is hard to tell as they can fly in and out at will without being registered flights.
There is a huge Chinese presence in sub-saharan Africa because Russia is not interested and western Governments reluctant to invest and if with conditions like human rights. China has no such scruples, most of the resources used by China come from Africa. In return for selling China raw materials China will build them infrastructure (roads, railroads, harbours) for free no questions asked.
There is a large cluster of cases in South Africa but that is one of the few countries with the semblances of a health system.
There is effectively no testing going on anywhere else. If you want to be tested you would have to pay for it yourself which is far beyond the means of vast majority of the populations.
I know of one Thai national who went to be tested in Zimbabwe after showing some symptoms but he ran away from the private clinic while waiting.

When it comes to human traffic between China and the rest of the world sub-saharan Africa is second only to India.
India produces 90% of the worlds generic medicines and gets the precursors/raw material trucked in directly from China.

I remember when I started following this in January it was mentioned that the virus would most likely spread out of China to the western world via South Africa and Egypt. Last thing I heard from Egypt was that they quarantined a Nile cruise ship after half of those on board tested positive.
 
Hum, that's scary about medics if India can not manage the crisis good enough to supply medics industry in China and elswhere... I have heard Holi festivals in India few days ago have not stopped people to group, touch each others faces despite gvt said to be prudent.

Don't heard any problem about supplying pills for such diseases like diabetes, blood pressure and so on.
Certainly because the death rate of cv-19 not being high enough to stop such productions... We can imagine the day when a virus will be far more dangerous, something impossible to manage. The huge pharm laboratories are going to get back some factory and certainly you will see some gvts ask them strongly to do so....

Coruption of elites in many countries is a serious problem, also margins asked by financial world and edges funds... when people are asked about their own confort they slide towards deny and say you are to talk about politic...lol, they prefer virus bath on huge boats while the real winners are on private islands...and of course I'm not the last as an Internet addicted to be active in the process...

Edit, thank you for the link, easier as non native english speaker to understand than the other link from the epidemic specialist from USA...
 
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This is Professor Neil Ferguson (British epidemiologist. He is a professor of mathematical biology, who specialises in the epidemiology of infectious disease spread in humans and animals) from the Imperial College in London in a short 3 minute interview. He sees societies having a choice of two alternatives in this crisis.

1) Follow what the WHO recommends and China did, attempt to suppress all transmission.
2) Give up on trying to stop the spread and instead focus on mitigating or controlling (slowing) the epidemic.

#1 could minimize or largely prevent deaths from this infection but would have to be kept in place for 12 to 18 months waiting for a vaccine at scale. Could this be done, is this actually feasible? Doesn't seem realistic.

#2 let the virus run its course until it stops because it runs out of people and society develops heard immunity….~ %50 of the population. High number of deaths...an unattractive unpalatable alternative.

He also expresses concern that once China lifts its quarantines that the number of viral infections could go up once again.
 
I believe both are mixing 1 and 2... UK is still in EU, but health is the responsabilty of each State inside...basicly all scientists are collaborating with no frontiers, but each gvts have to manage according their infra and system...
 
Of course not their fault, in Europe some epidemiologist say to add two zero for the infected and this will certainly raise as in fact we are phase 4...gvt don't say so to manage fears which can be more dangerous than virus... also for local elections in some areas. And imagine here in Europe, we have major crisis as in Greece who does the best for ruling their frontiers... with few help from EU...
 
I believe both are mixing 1 and 2... UK is still in EU, but health is the responsabilty of each State inside...basicly all scientists are collaborating with no frontiers, but each gvts have to manage according their infra and system...

Technically the UK left the EU on the 31st of Jan and entered a transition phase which ends on the 31st of Jan 2021.

The UKs NHS could barely cope with the flu season and has 120 000 jobs going with no applicants. There is zero spare capacity.
 
Deputies left Bruxelles but most of rules still apply as for commercial exchanges, no frontiers yet...
They discuss for the process and yoj can bet it will take more time than 1 year exactly as it was before.
 
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