On a positive note, I just read a letter from my investment bank on the plans they have for the turn-around-point. They are working hard to try to identify the turn-around point just before it happens, and make a killing.
Some people always make a killing, no matter what.
Jan
Some people always make a killing, no matter what.
Jan
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In 2013 researchers working on bats etc in China looking for the next problem virus strains were shut down - no funding. They had identified a virus almost identical to this one. We could have had a vaccine ready. So, no, humans en masse are dumb.
I'm probably not the only one, but the uneducated seat of the pants second guessing business is unproductive and noisome, especially when you start looking at data from other countries about Covid-19 transmission.
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Jack--by showing 2 countries that have and continue to demonstrate very aggressive public health policies to the US, you do the readership a disservice. That data is in essence cherry picked.
Physics/engineery/techie type folks would do well to remember that while we have a reasonable explanation for how the universe works that is now 100 yrs old, the Standard Model for things at the quantum level (50 years for most of it) and we’ve flown spacecraft all over the Solar system, we still have no cure for a Cancer, Alzheimer’s and a host of other terrible diseases. We only worked out the exact details of how the ATP proton pump works in 1996.
So, respect to all these biological folks because the biggest challenges science faces are in the biological field - physiology, virology, immunology.
So, respect to all these biological folks because the biggest challenges science faces are in the biological field - physiology, virology, immunology.
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Letter from Toronto: An Infectious Diseases Specialist Reflects on COVID-19
Note From the pages of Facebook:
I’m a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I’ve been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria…there is little I haven’t been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.
I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.
What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they ” probably don’t have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know…” and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.
I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games…that could be kiboshed too. Can you even imagine?
I’m scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.
But mostly, I’m scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, open-mindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.
Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and “fight for yourself above all else” attitude could prove disastrous.
I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let’s meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.
Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.
Dr. Abdhu Sharkawy
Note From the pages of Facebook:
I’m a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I’ve been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria…there is little I haven’t been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.
I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.
What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they ” probably don’t have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know…” and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.
I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games…that could be kiboshed too. Can you even imagine?
I’m scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.
But mostly, I’m scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, open-mindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.
Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and “fight for yourself above all else” attitude could prove disastrous.
I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let’s meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.
Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.
Dr. Abdhu Sharkawy
I could include Iran and Italy. My point was to try and gauge the quality of the data from China by comparing to SKorea. If SK follows China, then we can be more confident that the CDC of China was accurately reporting the numbers. This has ramifications for emerging market investment.
Note -- 50% of the Diamond Princess cases have resolved.
Sorry, Jack, didn't see that as what you were going for. I haven't heard much suggesting that, within understandable undersampling the population and collection biases, China's data is unreasonable (this reading more mainstream analyses, I'm sure I could find someone showing it's tampered, but that's the internet for you. 😀)
Given our poor testing response, it's likely we're going to see a spike here in the US over the next week (as we get ourselves sorted)
Given our poor testing response, it's likely we're going to see a spike here in the US over the next week (as we get ourselves sorted)
Here's why our version of Donald Trump has decided to do, uhum, what they're "doing" British government wants UK to acquire coronavirus 'herd immunity', writes Robert Peston - ITV News
They made a numeric model from the diamond princess btw.
@jan.didden, they have not worked so hard since 2018 and they don't want tk split investment funds from deposit funds... they just don't care and are cynicals...you eventually receive a mail explaining to you you should invest on japanises toilett devices. I fear for a crisis at cash mâchins cause of that and people basic fearx....
@jan.didden, they have not worked so hard since 2018 and they don't want tk split investment funds from deposit funds... they just don't care and are cynicals...you eventually receive a mail explaining to you you should invest on japanises toilett devices. I fear for a crisis at cash mâchins cause of that and people basic fearx....
Thank you BigUn
That's a brilliant post/quote BigUn.
With the rush on these sanitary items, I have been unable to get many things- small bottle of hand sanitizer that was already in the cupboard, toilet paper, paracetamol, we have enough in standby.
But try and get some nappies for the youngest son...haha now that's a joke!!!
At times I have been a little panicked, but not stockpiled a single thing, while some seem to be buying to see them through the zombie apocalypse.
We have a water main burst, and very low water levels - my biggest fear is losing the water completely, and being in isolation at some point in the near future.
Its bound to happen.
That's a brilliant post/quote BigUn.
With the rush on these sanitary items, I have been unable to get many things- small bottle of hand sanitizer that was already in the cupboard, toilet paper, paracetamol, we have enough in standby.
But try and get some nappies for the youngest son...haha now that's a joke!!!
At times I have been a little panicked, but not stockpiled a single thing, while some seem to be buying to see them through the zombie apocalypse.
We have a water main burst, and very low water levels - my biggest fear is losing the water completely, and being in isolation at some point in the near future.
Its bound to happen.
^ No, but I read papers coming from wide ranging places in the world, so I know exactly what you're talking about. 🙂 You didn't introduce the charts from the angle of "the Chinese and South Korean new case load curves more or less match, suggesting that we're seeing legitimate data", so I misinterpreted you suggesting that here in the US we were liable to follow a similar trajectory. Charts without captions are reader antagonistic. 🙂
It would *not* have surprised me if the data was suspicious given the long history (due diligence in n-tech no matter the world around, if I'm honest), just that the folks who pore through this data day-in, day-out are even more suspicious about it than I am (US/European-based epidemiologists), and have pointed out that the data has looked legit.
It would *not* have surprised me if the data was suspicious given the long history (due diligence in n-tech no matter the world around, if I'm honest), just that the folks who pore through this data day-in, day-out are even more suspicious about it than I am (US/European-based epidemiologists), and have pointed out that the data has looked legit.
Thanks for the graphs.
The slope of the curve gives you a real good idea of what stage you at in the crisis.
No quite the opposit : they don't care about your monney to be safe. They should have splited deposits from invests founds after te 2008 crisis (my typo , sorry no 2018). Obama could not cause bankers lobbying. Some CE countries wanted to follow if he did so, but not GB... it is just like this with people also halas, wisdom don't grow with the knowledge: global warming, hygienic, etc, etc...
It's just show they don't care and don't want to anticipate next crisis... I think all became mad since the 80s' with banks and stock exchanges systems.
I've looked into the numbers, researched the statistics and yes folks, I have bad news: 100% of the human population will die.
But on a positive note many will have enough toilet paper for ages, which is comforting.
But on a positive note many will have enough toilet paper for ages, which is comforting.
There is likely to be a baby boom in 9 months...all that beer, tv and nothing else to do ex pro-create.
Imagine in ten months : world full of 1 month babies and no parents on the planet 😱
I' reassured to know that the prematures to be the new prophets
! We should write for them in the marble : Huggies are for one shoot only 
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Hum, sorry for the disgress, it's a psychiatrical decompensation 😱
I' reassured to know that the prematures to be the new prophets
! We should write for them in the marble : Huggies are for one shoot only !Hum, sorry for the disgress, it's a psychiatrical decompensation 😱
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