The Arctic has become warmer by 5 degrees. Australia has snowed.

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The marketeers did. It's a business plan after all. You should know better about that site.

More trolling.

Incredible how the sea temperatures have gone up over the last 10 years in the Arctic. Last year (winter) the Arctic Ocean was 12 F higher than normal in some areas.

I remember doing science at school and learning that the atmosphere had 300 ppm CO2. Kids now go to school and learn it’s 409 ppm 50 years later.

Climate in the US. Similar story in EU

For those interested, here is a seriously good blog on climate change by a PhD physicist.

Not alarmist, but under no illusions that we face planet wide disruption over the coming few thousand years (lots of graphs!)

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How about we reconvene on this in a few years from now? Say, 3 - 4 years if we are still around, meaning that we are still healthy and able to post online and this forum is still around. Deal?
 
Deforestation doesn’t help that cause......it’s quite disconcerting how much rainforest has disappeared.

The Anthropocene began with the cutting down of trees and killing off the aboriginals that cared for them. This includes the boreal forests of both north and south hemispheres as well as the equatorial rain forests.

You can all read about this in “Barkskins” the recent historical novel by Annie Proulx. It is a tough read, perhaps a tearful one for some.

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I did not mean a preventive science. I meant a science of counter solutions for changing climate. Prevention is a no go situation, a non starter for plethora of reasons.
Most of the time one have to learn to live with cancer instead of counting days to the departure. Is there anything being done in this regard?
 
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The marketeers did. It's a business plan after all. You should know better about that site.


How about we reconvene on this in a few years from now? Say, 3 - 4 years if we are still around, meaning that we are still healthy and able to post online and this forum is still around. Deal?

I prefer to discuss it here and now.

Have you read up on the greenhouse effect and do you understand it in basic layman’s terms (the way I do)?

Have you read up on thermal inertia and do you understand it?

Do you understand how much and how huge 2.5 trillion tons of CO2 is?

Do you understand that although the CO2 in the atmosphere is only in concentrations of 409 ppm (2019) , it accounts for nearly 30% of the earths greenhouse effect and increasing it from 280 ppm to 409 ppm in 150 years has serious consequences?
 
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CO2 reclamation

Ideas are our future

Can't find much info online about CO2 reclamation except for beverages....

If it's possible to get it from the atmosphere, it must be also possible to extract it from water..

The kerosene made from it will power jet and other high compression engines, excesses could be kept and stored. Perhaps also giving the ability to actually control the temperatures as a benefit.

The CO2 would most likely need to be mined back to a balance.

One would think that plants could do the work in some way.

So far as power generation, geothermal can do it all. Could probably build a plant powered by under Yellowstone.
 
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2.5 trillion tons . . . 2500 000 000 000 tons

I don’t know how you will sequestrate that much CO2. It’s a seriously big number.

Say you can reclaim 50 000 tons a year - it will take 50 million years to fix it

1 million tons a year will take 2.5 million years

5-6 million tons a year ( mother nature’s rate) about 400-500 k years
 
Actually reading some promising stuff...

"Our back of the envelope calculations show that we could remove the CO2 generated from a gallon of gasoline for less than 25 cents.”

“A more aggressive implementation of this technology would allow civilization to begin drawing down atmospheric CO2 levels back to where they were before the industrial revolution, not simply stop the increase.”


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I did not mean a preventive science. I meant a science of counter solutions for changing climate. Prevention is a no go situation, a non starter for plethora of reasons.
Most of the time one have to learn to live with cancer instead of counting days to the departure. Is there anything being done in this regard?

The causes are still present, and increasing. The oil companies still "drill baby drill." Rain forests are still
being devastated. Glaciers are still melting. Only addressing the causes can help, but after the rain forests and glaciers are gone, the tipping point may have been passed, and the changes to our ecosystem could be irreversible.
 
What Andrew said - the by-in / acceptance by existing energy industries could well be a bigger hurdle than the challenges of scaling capacity of such revolutionary technologies to be of sufficient timely benefit.
Then if course there’s the always inestimable unintended consequences
 
The causes are still present, and increasing. The oil companies still "drill baby drill." Rain forests are still
being devastated. Glaciers are still melting. Only addressing the causes can help, but after the rain forests and glaciers are gone, the tipping point may have been passed, and the changes to our ecosystem could be irreversible.

Well then, go and plant some trees!
 
I've always minimized my carbon footprint. Used cars with good mileage, driven little.
Public transportation for work. Electric lawn mower, not that I like grass.

All highly commendable, but not the same as planting trees.

There are 7.7 billion of us, if we each planted 10 trees, that’s 77 billion trees. Do that every year for 10 years, that’s 770 billion trees. It is doable, and in some places like Ethiopia (and the Scottish Highlands where I live) it is being done - NOW!

What are we all waiting for?

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