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Such traits were obviously present prior to penicillin's discovery, and thus could not be an evolutionary development."

This is BS. This does not at all show it is not an evolutionary development. There are many promising medicins that are found not to be effective because the target is resistent. And of course that resistance is the result of some earlier evolutionary developent, otherwise it would not be there.

Why is it seemingly so hard to grasp the conceptual stuff??

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That's a very good thought. One idea is to use garden soil as a place to find new antibiotics. The reasoning being mostly soil is harmless to humans. I have no idea if it will be a good venture. It shows the sort of thinking which could be important. Some obsolete antibiotics have been tweaked to have a new life as another idea. Some have side effects as the downside. Better that than death.

After looking at this I will always ask myself " is it really a science ". The electronics industry could never take a risk the size they do without having people who really know. I bought some test gear from a man who designed chips. From what I know the first generation computers and perhaps Acorn. He said if I was ever interested £80 000 was what it would cost to do a first batch given an idea. It's not very much money, however too much for just a whim. When I asked about concept to design he was saying he whole job from my circuit to finished product. Needless to say it won't be a reality. Nice he offered. For the life of me I forget his name. He had a Morris Minor so I knew he was the real deal. He lived near Milton Keynes and said the facility was close where he worked.
 
That means it is a story like Star Trek that comes from the heart and seems so likely to be true. I often think fiction is how we take the next step. If you like the collective mind is feeling it's way to the truth. As it is called fiction no one thinks to say " how daft " or shouldn't. I have to admit I liked Harry Potter when I was determined not to.

Dickens is fiction from a time past even when he wrote it. However it captures a time just digested into memory. At school we could do history 1803 to 1939 or 1939 to the the present day ( 1970 ) in our county. Our school did not teach the latter as it was considered too subjective. My place of special interest is Blandford Forum in Dorset. School did that as I wanted to know before 1803. I remember my teacher saying the twists and turns of our countryside are due to the Enclosures Act circa 1803. She was most especially describing Dorset where perhaps modern social justice advanced a little after a bad start. Many of the lovely Dorset names were drama added to make the romance greater. Good on them. Jane Austen when place names. Magna D'arcy. See, I just made one myself. Thomas Hardy added a bit.

History is not a science and often is taken as fact. Another Flat Earth.

Dickens The signalman comes I think from something he was involved in a year earlier. As you see if I am right he hadn't digusted it. It was raw in his memory.

Charles Dickens - The signalman -Ghost Story - YouTube
 
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"Why is it seemingly so hard to grasp the conceptual stuff??"

It seems there can be difficulty in accepting that evolution is a process and there is no direction, aim or a goal.

Evolution is.

Indeed. Maybe that clashes with our need for a goal, an aim, a purpose. But Nature isn't particlarly worried about our silly needs :cool:

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"Why is it seemingly so hard to grasp the conceptual stuff??"

It seems there can be difficulty in accepting that evolution is a process and there is no direction, aim or a goal.

Evolution is.

Indeed. Maybe that clashes with our need for a goal, an aim, a purpose. But Nature isn't particlarly worried about our silly needs :cool:

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Yes, we are living in world, where human need for goal, an aim, or purpose is threated like silly need, you are right about that, but I think that is very big problem.
That's another "flat earth" alike question! Do we live in time loops or we move on a straight time line? Is there teleonomy?
 
Even the area of bacteria and antibiotics causes debate. Here is an extract which I take to be ture. True or not it is a valid question. The whole text makes it clearer and to me has a bias. None the less very interesting as it is vital we understant where to go next with antibiotics. DNA seems to be their new book of wisdom.

"Furthermore, it has been proven that resistance to many modern antibiotics was present decades before their discovery. In 1845, sailors on an ill-fated Arctic expedition were buried in the permafrost and remained deeply frozen until their bodies were exhumed in 1986. Preservation was so complete that six strains of nineteenth-century bacteria found dormant in the contents of the sailors' intestines were able to be revived! When tested, these bacteria were found to possess resistance to several modern-day antibiotics, including penicillin. Such traits were obviously present prior to penicillin's discovery, and thus could not be an evolutionary development."

Do Bacteria Evolve Resistance to Antibiotics? | The Institute for Creation Research

I hope you realize that the Institute for Creation "Research" is not a scientific source. They are 100% a religious apologetic source; 0% scientific.

And they don't do any "research" either.;) 100% sham institution.
 
Here's your Institution for Creation "Research."

Institute for Creation Research - Wikipedia

"The Institute for Creation Research (ICR) is a Creationist apologetics institute in Dallas, Texas that specializes in media promotion of pseudoscientific creation science and interpretation of the Genesis creation narrative as a historical event. The ICR adopts the Bible as an inerrant and literal documentary of scientific and historical fact as well as religious and moral truths, and espouses a Young Earth creationist worldview"
 
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Yes, we are living in world, where human need for goal, an aim, or purpose is threated like silly need,

I don't know if that is true; I certainly didn't say that. Do we have a language issue here? I noticed that you have a tendency to twist people's words to another meaning than the context. I still don't know if it is a language issue or whether you are deliberately try to mis-represent things.

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He has only another viewpoint, than we have most of us.
It doesn't mean necessarily that he don't have a truth.

I understand that. For most of us, our viewpoint is our thruth.

But why say: 'Yes, we are living in world, where human need for goal, an aim, or purpose is threated like silly need,' I didn't say that. I said that Nature does not care about humanity's silly needs. That is something completely different. But I accept there may be a language issue.

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