Very limited market and/or high cost would be my guess. IME, most folks either don't hear very well and/or don't much like a 'HIFI'/'accurate' presentation. I mean consider how many prefer to go to the opera or at least an opera house to hear music rather than a big speaker array concert.
GM
GM
Mostly done thanks; making some final revisions that have me pulling my hair out. I need to make a final trip to the archives Wednesday / Thursday, mainly to try to answer a side-question that I was asked to look into regarding a vessel name-change. Not the cheapest of exercises. On the positive side, I'll get to search through some more pictures for a published version.
Yes, this was my main gripe! In my 16 ft wide room, LP 14 ft back, a single speaker splashed sound off the side walls in front of the LP, so no hope in stereo except up close and personal; that, and it had some strong peaking centered around 7 kHz IIRC that set teeth on edge with way too much sibilance.
According to Alan though, his primary market for the Lorelei was HT contractors that wanted even more off axis response, which made no sense to me based on THX layouts unless they wanted just one driver for all channels.
The basic concept is just what I'd design though in a small, 'cost no object' project.
GM
It's really a shame. I think loudspeaker drivers like the RCA LC-1A should be commonplace today. I also think that loudspeaker systems should still be around 100dB/watt/meter, and no less than 93dB/w or so for small systems, even desktop loudspeakers.. using low mass paper cones, of course. But, oh well..
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http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=264-909
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=264-875
..For example. Just ridiculous. Drivers like these, and 1" chinese full-rangers with max SPL in the 70's are now commonplace. I don't like the direction audio systems have gone, and I'm not even 30 yet. I still have a pair of large planar hybrids that have been collecting dust for several years, rated at 83dB/w. Blew up a couple nice amplifiers with them. I've owned my share of other inefficient loudspeakers in the past. Since then, I've learned that low sensitivity is not the way to go. A balance between sensitivity, size, and reasonable crossover slopes has been my preferred method of choice.
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Not sure if that is such a horrible thing. Check out the first. For its size, if it manages even 80 dB at 1m, 50Hz it is quite remarkable. Linearity will be a long forgotten myth by then, though, but still...
2" mini-sub woofer - we all need a good laff from time to time -
there are full range drivers with whizzer cones twice this size
another kinda joke actually, but let's stay on topic 😀
there are full range drivers with whizzer cones twice this size
another kinda joke actually, but let's stay on topic 😀
Does anyone actually have a pair of these yet?
I am probably going to get a pair or 2. Not sure whether I should wait for 10s or just get the 8s
I am probably going to get a pair or 2. Not sure whether I should wait for 10s or just get the 8s
I think they need to keep working on improving them.
They should be able to make something like a phy driver.
With enough effort and research, they should make something similar for less price (maybe not alnico, but offer both like they do now).
6moons industryfeatures: Bernard Salabert of PHY-HP
PHY-HP famous speakerunits made by former Bernard Salabert of France. - YouTube
I'll wait.
Norman
They should be able to make something like a phy driver.
With enough effort and research, they should make something similar for less price (maybe not alnico, but offer both like they do now).
6moons industryfeatures: Bernard Salabert of PHY-HP
PHY-HP famous speakerunits made by former Bernard Salabert of France. - YouTube
I'll wait.
Norman
Seems like they are really trying to do something special with fullrange high efficiency drivers.
I might get a pair anyway.
I like the cast frame of the PHY drivers.
I might get a pair anyway.
I like the cast frame of the PHY drivers.
Well, I went ahead and ordered a pair of the 12 inch Classic with the ferrite magnets. I've had a few full range drivers in my system before- all Fostex, and i never really could get to enjoy them. I let these break in for a few days with some good LF heavy material, and they are coming around nicely. The bottom end is very impressive, and well controlled in the accidentally functional 6.8 cu.ft TL cabinet I've temporarily mounted them in.
The top end is really excellent- extended, a little too hot in fact, so I've added a nobel and BSC filters to help keep the rising response in check. I'm sure given more time I'll be able to get the best from them.
I'm impressed enough to keep them, and go about building one of the big manifold horn cabs for them… I'm quite happy for $350.
The top end is really excellent- extended, a little too hot in fact, so I've added a nobel and BSC filters to help keep the rising response in check. I'm sure given more time I'll be able to get the best from them.
I'm impressed enough to keep them, and go about building one of the big manifold horn cabs for them… I'm quite happy for $350.
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