I find different reasons to use either CFA or VFA topologies. A discrete VFA topology CAN be made to do almost everything a CFA can do, IF you care enough to do it. BUT, CFA can be a simpler thru-path and that could make all the difference for some designs like a low power tweeter amp or a headphone amp. Of course, you have to believe that there is a difference between designs that can be audible to make this worthwhile.
Of course, you have to believe that there is a difference between designs that can be audible to make this worthwhile.
Who is going to run with this....yet again???😉
Not me. I am just happy that there are people chasing distortion below the noise floor for the fun of it.
They can all sound good if you take care with your design. Night and day differences don't exist with good designs of any topology - just shades of green.
The big differences are in speakers, room acoustics and so on. And in recordings, there are huge quality differences. I have some CD's for example that have fabulous imaging and others that are just plain terrible all round.
Talking of recordings, I bought my wife the new Adele CD as a stocking filler for Xmas. Never again. It's so compressed it's almost unlistenable. I should have got the hint with the first two - her producer won't change and clearly she doesn't understand or care about excessive compression. I also got the Benjamin Clemintine CD - totally different experince - wonderfully recorded.
The big differences are in speakers, room acoustics and so on. And in recordings, there are huge quality differences. I have some CD's for example that have fabulous imaging and others that are just plain terrible all round.
Talking of recordings, I bought my wife the new Adele CD as a stocking filler for Xmas. Never again. It's so compressed it's almost unlistenable. I should have got the hint with the first two - her producer won't change and clearly she doesn't understand or care about excessive compression. I also got the Benjamin Clemintine CD - totally different experince - wonderfully recorded.
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Not me. I am just happy that there are people chasing distortion below the noise floor for the fun of it.
That job was arguably finished in the 1980s.
I would prefer to have people chasing improved sound quality.
That's why hobbies are so satisfying and at the same time often pointless. But it's all good and people have fun. Unless you want to ban having fun unless there is a DBT to see if its really fun or just the expectation of fun?
I would prefer to have people chasing improved sound quality.
Now that is a revolutionary thought. 😀
That's why hobbies are so satisfying and at the same time often pointless.
Please speak for yourself, and do not attempt to over-generalize.
But it's all good and people have fun.
Spreading false information is not my idea of fun.
Unless you want to ban having fun
Certain forms of of what some people consider to be fun are already banned.
unless there is a DBT to see if its really fun or just the expectation of fun?
You've really got it in for DBTs, don't you?
I think I can see why.
Sorry Arny, forgot you had no sense of humor.
But on record, People doing stuff because they enjoy the challenge is GOOD. Good for them from a mental health and general wellbeing perspective and good for us as we get to discuss these things in a (generally) friendly forum. I support it and will continue to do so, however inaudible the results end up. It's a bit of fun after all.
But on record, People doing stuff because they enjoy the challenge is GOOD. Good for them from a mental health and general wellbeing perspective and good for us as we get to discuss these things in a (generally) friendly forum. I support it and will continue to do so, however inaudible the results end up. It's a bit of fun after all.
But on record, People doing stuff because they enjoy the challenge is GOOD. Good for them from a mental health and general wellbeing perspective and good for us as we get to discuss these things in a (generally) friendly forum. I support it and will continue to do so, however inaudible the results end up. It's a bit of fun after all.
+1000. My only problems happen when ridiculous claims are made, otherwise, yes, designing and building stuff for a challenge is fun. Some of us can still have fun.
Sorry Arny, forgot you had no sense of humor.
Thanks for the personal attack.
But on record, People doing stuff because they enjoy the challenge is GOOD.
Life can be like the old Sears catalog: Good, Better, and Best.
Good for them from a mental health and general well
being perspective and good for us as we get to discuss these things in a (generally) friendly forum.
You call your misbehavior here a sign of friendship?
I support it and will continue to do so, however inaudible the results end up. It's a bit of fun after all.
Like I said without attacking anybody:
I would prefer to have people chasing improved sound quality.
If you wish to avoid improved sound quality, that is of course your privilege.
Improved sound quality is just my preference, and apparently its expression is not allowed here without one paying the price being personally attacked in public for having no sense of humor.
So what is your idea of "Improved sound quality" ?......Improved sound quality is just my preference, and apparently its expression is not allowed here .....
Dan.
I would prefer to have people chasing improved sound quality.
Can you tell us your secret how to improve sound quality, I would like to chase it?
Recently a colleague of mine has made the top of the list in amplifier and preamp design. That is Bascom King. His latest amp was just reviewed in the Feb. 'Stereophile' and he is a heavy weight contender. His more expensive amp and preamp got 'product of the year' in 'The Absolute Sound' this month as well.
He is the guy that I look to as to 'what he is doing right'. Measurements? Not so great, but subjectively A-OK, according to the reviewers.
His design approach is different than mine, but equally valid. That is what makes it a competition. Relatively soon, I hope to put out a 'better' power amp and I hope to get the awards that he got recently for my efforts. That is what drives Charlie Hansen, Bascom King, and myself, not specs. only. We provide each other with competition.
He is the guy that I look to as to 'what he is doing right'. Measurements? Not so great, but subjectively A-OK, according to the reviewers.
His design approach is different than mine, but equally valid. That is what makes it a competition. Relatively soon, I hope to put out a 'better' power amp and I hope to get the awards that he got recently for my efforts. That is what drives Charlie Hansen, Bascom King, and myself, not specs. only. We provide each other with competition.
I am all the way with Billshurv and SY on this one. But, it is not just for fun, enlightenment and keeping the good old mental circuits going. It also provides you with better sound if you do it right. Plus with a bit of cash-flow, some of us that is.
get a (better) Room? Sound treatment, Speakers?
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/soli...mplifier-studio-monitoring-2.html#post4483583Can you tell us your secret how to improve sound quality, I would like to chase it?
Thanks for the personal attack.
It was a joke. You know, humor?
Friendly and friendship are two completely different things on this side of the pond. Not sure what misbehaviour you are talking about. I've not had a modslap(tm) this year so I'm being well behaved by some measure.You call your misbehavior here a sign of friendship?
Improved sound quality is just my preference, and apparently its expression is not allowed here without one paying the price being personally attacked in public for having no sense of humor.
I will +1 on wanting to hear how this is done.
I will also add, at great risk of rebuttal and noting ahead of time that this is another attempt at humor, that your internet history suggests you have one of the thickest skins out there so I very much doubt you were even irked by my joke, even if it fell flat. 🙂
I've not had a modslap(tm) this year
Amateur
(sorry about that, just wanted to try how it feels like)
I am all the way with Billshurv and SY on this one. But, it is not just for fun, enlightenment and keeping the good old mental circuits going. It also provides you with better sound if you do it right. Plus with a bit of cash-flow, some of us that is.
It seems my impression, regardless the clashes of philosophy here, there, and everywhere that this is is the general trend. It doesn't seem like audio (in general!) is such a great place to make a buck, so motivation has to come from somewhere else. (Not to mention the number of quite brilliant people that migrate to this site from fields well outside of audio)
But, less philosophy and more fun circuits! Haha.
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