Think about them quoting each other.
I don't buy it.. IME, What we have here is people in denial about the faults of a popular piece of equipment.. we're all hearing it in the same way but the faults are sometimes not getting discussed so a particular piece of equipment will continue to gain popularity, with significant avoidance of discussing the negative aspects..
Many times listeners have described to me the sound of a piece of equipment with the exact characterization that I had already established.. The listener has no previous knowledge of the model/brand and I didn't discuss with him my characterization.. Did he look at my body language and form a precise and detailed description of the sound that I had in my mind.. Is it possible that he is a mind reader and thought he shouldn't hurt my feelings and just say what I was thinking about the sound...


It's a lovely effect for organs and guitar and it is surprisingly complex to fake digitally.
Leslie - A perfect tone forever🙂
I have often found that non-audiophile types, in particular females can give the fastest and most accurate appraisal of a system.I don't buy it.. IME, What we have here is people in denial about the faults of a popular piece of equipment.. we're all hearing it in the same way but the faults are sometimes not getting discussed so a particular piece of equipment will continue to gain popularity, with significant avoidance of discussing the negative aspects..
Many times listeners have described to me the sound of a piece of equipment with the exact characterization that I had already established.. The listener has no previous knowledge of the model/brand and I didn't discuss with him my characterization.. Did he look at my body language and form a precise and detailed description of the sound that I had in my mind.. Is it possible that he is a mind reader and thought he shouldn't hurt my feelings and just say what I was thinking about the sound...![]()
If a system sounds good they will say so, and if a system sounds 'wrong' they will say so also, and will accurately describe the faults.
Dan.
dancing to the holy disc sent aimlessly into space, must be an interresting record to get hold on down the vinylpushers
I bet the unfortunate alien, that put it on his grammophone and with all the expectation bias associated, listen to some of side A and then makes a nice lamp out of it.
What is interesting is to know if foobar messes up the signal or not.
Anything can happen in a piece of software. Foobar is a software. It runs on top of an Operating System, which is another software. And lot's of independent software running on top of the OS to support the basic operation of the computer. These software known as driver will support hardware such as sound card...
What is interesting is to know if Foobar processes the signal better than other software. Because it is obvious that every player sounds different. They are just like analog amplifiers which sound different one to another.
The simpler and smaller the software, the rougher the processing, the rougher the sound...
If WinAmp is analog, then Foobar is digital. I think 2 sound clips tend to sound similar in Foobar than in other players... Initially I don't like Foobar, but I have a feeling that it is more accurate. But I like Windows Media Player, especially with Windows 8.
Because it is obvious that every player sounds different. They are just like analog amplifiers which sound different one to another.
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Is it obvious? Not to me.
Is it obvious? Not to me.
Try the smallest executable you can find, and compare with WMP. If still cannot then there are many listening test on the net. You can test how you compare with average listeners.
So I should do a sighted comparison to prove your point? yeah that'll give a scientific data point.
And, to go to the heart of the matter: testis unus, testis nullus. One can claim all he wants about distortion, unless it can be replicated reliably by someone else regardless of his own biases, it is of little or no value.
Bingo.
This hobby is filled with people making assertions about the "quality" of the sonics *they* hear in uncontrolled listening sessions they call "tests". Without controls, these assertions are not transferable to others. It is unrealistic to expect others to hear the same thing. And let's not suggest something like "I was listening with my buddies, and they all agreed on the quality of the sound...." validates anything other than friendship.
Anything can happen in a piece of software. Foobar is a software. It runs on top of an Operating System, which is another software. And lot's of independent software running on top of the OS to support the basic operation of the computer. These software known as driver will support hardware such as sound card...
Anything can happen? What does that even mean?
What is interesting is to know if Foobar processes the signal better than other software. Because it is obvious that every player sounds different. They are just like analog amplifiers which sound different one to another.
Ummm, it is far from obvious. I would assert the exact opposite.
The simpler and smaller the software, the rougher the processing, the rougher the sound...
If WinAmp is analog, then Foobar is digital. I think 2 sound clips tend to sound similar in Foobar than in other players... Initially I don't like Foobar, but I have a feeling that it is more accurate. But I like Windows Media Player, especially with Windows 8.
Preference is about the listener, not the source. Surely if there is a difference between the outputs of two programs, you could tell without even listening.
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