comes down to a numbers game.
Number of decades ago, I had a fight on a street around midnight, with a 6'6'' minimum pony-tail in a New Balance jacket & pants outfit.(classic turd look back then)
Two days later, with a purple bruise on my upper lip, I had a talk with a collegue, who was married to a fiscal lawyer.
During which she stated that her boyfriend would have solved the matter verbally, within a few minutes.
I tried to reason calm and friendly with the gent for fifteen minutes, then let him have the first swing, to claim self-defense afterwards, bloke punched a tooth through my lip.
Rest of the story lasted 5-10 minutes, use the added image (with the pins facing outwards) to think up possible options for the next page, before the cops arrived.
It's been my experience that a lot of folks use more words, than they're able to substantiate (handle

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Dipl.-Ing.(FH)
Dipl.-Ing.(TH)
The first one got his masters degree from a Fachhochschule (more practical oriented with mandatory internships) and the other from a technical university.
The professors at a Fachhochschule got to where they are through actually working in the industry in a leading capacity, the professors at a technical university through research.
The important thing in Germany is that you get rid of the Mr. or Mrs. and replace it by Dipl.-Ing., or even Dr. Ing.
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not always. in all my years at work I've never encountered one person, regardless of age, who insists on being address to with "Mr.". until I got to work with Germans 😀 they are indeed special in many ways.The important thing in Germany is that you get rid of the Mr. or Mrs. and replace it by Dipl.-Ing., or even Dr. Ing.
My minions are instructed to address me as, "Sir, Dr. Y, sir!" If they don't, I punch them in the pants to get their attention and focus them on proper respect.
Fachhochschule.....Technical University.
Overhere, it was Higher Technical School, the equivalent of FH. (= Bachelors degree)
And the other, TH (as in Technical Higher-school), as TH in Germany. (= Masters degree)
My oldy college book on plastics, from the first half of the '80s (TH then, now Technical University) =>
(I just knew SY had some positive side, lurking somewhere. My vote's on Dr. Y. not)
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we could discuss if it is ethical to earn money such way.Why? Mr. Altmann demonstrated that he is a very smart and intelligent man, able to make a nice career from audio tweaks. In fact, he demonstrated that he's quite a bit smarter than his (un-educated?) customers 😉
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
jan
most people don´t care, "if belly is full-everything is ok"

guys, don't fool yourselves 🙂 no-one gets rich from designing audio. the ones who place it in a nice room and give you the BS speech actually do 🙂
if you are doing it in hi scale like mcintosh or others, you should.
at least not being bankrupt <?>
at least not being bankrupt <?>
I guess there's a living to make. but getting rich? no effing way.
but the dealers? 🙂 please, take my word for it, these guys are not exactly living on unemployment benefits.
but the dealers? 🙂 please, take my word for it, these guys are not exactly living on unemployment benefits.
I guess there's a living to make.
It's a nice side-show of a regular job, think 10k for a single decent design project. (even nicer if it's tax free)
not always. in all my years at work I've never encountered one person, regardless of age, who insists on being address to with "Mr.". until I got to work with Germans 😀 they are indeed special in many ways.
Unless you have a close friendship with someone every german over the age of 16 can legally insist on being referred to as 'Herr XYZ' or 'Frau XYZ'.
Grammatically you would use the 3rd person plural when you address any german you do not know personally. It is considered rude to use 2nd person singular.
A title is a much sought after status symbol and once you have one you can insist on being referred to as 'Diplom Ingenieur XYZ' (good), Doctor XYZ (better) or even Professor XYZ (best) instead of the plain 'Herr' or 'Frau'.
Professor in german does not relate to teaching at Uni (although that is also the case but those are known as 'narrow-gauge' professors and you lose the right to it once you quit) but on having produced a habilitation, a piece of new scientific work somewhat bigger and better than a dissertation.
I once had a dentist in Germany whose name was Professor Doktor Doktor Müller!
Overhere, it was Higher Technical School, the equivalent of FH. (= Bachelors degree)
And the other, TH (as in Technical Higher-school), as TH in Germany. (= Masters degree)
My oldy college book on plastics, from the first half of the '80s (TH then, now Technical University) =>
(I just knew SY had some positive side, lurking somewhere. My vote's on Dr. Y. not)
Last time I set foot in a german University the equivalent to a bachelors degree was called a pre-diploma and not much use for anything, least of all getting a job! You'd be better off with an apprenticeship.
The degrees from Fachhochschulen were upgraded to equal a masters from Uni in the '80s. Which is fair enough as it takes about the same amount of education to get it. For example a masters in EE from TU Berlin would take on average 7 years when I was there while the FH degree required a completed apprenticeship (3 years) plus 3 years studying.
like I care.every german over the age of 16 can legally insist
I've worked with people of varying nationalities and it didn't happen.
in my native tongue there is too a distinction between singular and plural (reverence) 2nd person but I've yet to meet a person who insisted on being addressed to with the English equivalent (whatever it may be).Grammatically you would use the 3rd person plural when you address any german you do not know personally. It is considered rude to use 2nd person singular.
take it as an opinion but Germans have been the least flexible persons I've worked with.
but don't think I care too much about dissecting this 🙂
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like I care.
in my native tongue there is too a distinction between singular and plural (reverence) 2nd person but I've yet to meet a person who insisted on being addressed to with the English equivalent (whatever it may be).
There is no english equivalent to this, it would be rather pointless to insist on something that doesn't exist.
Ex-chancellor Helmuth Kohl, who doesn't speak english well, became a standing joke in Germany when he said "You can say 'you' to me" to Reagan.
PS: What is your native tongue if you don't mind me asking? Mine is german btw.
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
jan
Jan
The original (industrial area origin) phrase is “If you think training is expensive, try ignorance”.
Education is something different, broader (not easily direct related to cost).
Dipl.-Ing. is one of very few confusing things of a nation that's rational to the last digit.
The social image of a Dipl. Ing matches that rationality.
The “Fach-idiot” is that is confusing.
(Delft was THE place to study back in my age. How is it today?)
George
French? Spanish?in my native tongue there is too a distinction between singular and plural (reverence) 2nd person
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