Just for another confirmation. On the BOM list of BA-3 front end I found:
Q3 N-Channel MOSFET Output 2SK2013
Q4 N-Channel MOSFET Output 2SJ313
so I'm little bit confused. First 2SJ313 is P chanel type. .
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actually I think there is a typing error in the BA3 driver board BOM
I guess Q3 should be SJ313, P-channel
and Q4 SK2013, N-channel
fairchild replacement devices seems reversed too
I guess Q3 should be SJ313, P-channel
and Q4 SK2013, N-channel
fairchild replacement devices seems reversed too
Yes Juma, you are right........😱
F4 was in my head!
F5 and BA-3 have p and n types just opposite!
I only can apologize ........!!!😡
F4 was in my head!

F5 and BA-3 have p and n types just opposite!
I only can apologize ........!!!😡
naah ......
do not worry ........
what's little smoke , between friends .......

(disclaimer - as long someone is still sane in our musings )

do not worry ........
what's little smoke , between friends .......

(disclaimer - as long someone is still sane in our musings )

Q4 is SJ and Q3 is SK
compare with F5 for instance or BA-2 the p is connected with negative rail, the n with positive rail....
@Dzius
Take care! I was wrong, mixing up F4 and F5!
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F5 and BA-3 have p and n types just opposite!
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It's all in the F5 article - common Source, common Drain, common Gate topologies, explanations and drawings...
Just remember that every FET with 2SJ prefix is a P-channel and every 2SK is a N-channel device.
Few simple things more:
- every N-ch device has its Drain more positive than the Source in order to work
- N-ch depletion mode device (f.e. JFET, like 2sk170) will not conduct the current only if its Source is far more positive than its Gate
- N-ch enhanced mode device (f.e. HEXFET, like IRF610) will conduct the current only if its Gate is more positive (few volts) than its Source
-With P-ch devices everything is the opposite
naah ......
do not worry ........
what's little smoke , between friends .......
(disclaimer - as long someone is still sane in our musings )
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You are right! Juma is invited!
Attachments
..Ops.
Chester or Jester ?
5:43 => Court Jester - Part 6/11 - YouTube
(haa, no one outfoxes the fox)
Py-Jamas => P-channel = J

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Apart from jacco and yours trully Jokes
AL I wanted to say it would be nice to have a place where to meet and share here in the UK and that I am willing to do same hard labor for it.
I am prety good with barbeque and such.
AL I wanted to say it would be nice to have a place where to meet and share here in the UK and that I am willing to do same hard labor for it.
I am prety good with barbeque and such.
A bit far off, Gov.
(almost feels as if i would be able to hear talk with a Scot tongue about pixel size at the back yard exit)
Bar B&Q sounds good though, got any decent sausages ?
(almost feels as if i would be able to hear talk with a Scot tongue about pixel size at the back yard exit)
Bar B&Q sounds good though, got any decent sausages ?
I was looking at the BA-3 idea and I realized that an alternate connection may be possible?
What if you remove R125 & 126, P102 and C101. Insert the drain connection of Q3 and Q4 in their place.
Would this work? I see where the TL part would then be dealing with 45mA and that would probably not be good. maybe we could lower the values of R127 and 128 to correct for that?
We would possibly be benifitting from the removal of C101 and maybe a reduction in power supply noise getting into the signal?
Any comments?
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What if you remove R125 & 126, P102 and C101. Insert the drain connection of Q3 and Q4 in their place.
Would this work? I see where the TL part would then be dealing with 45mA and that would probably not be good. maybe we could lower the values of R127 and 128 to correct for that?
We would possibly be benifitting from the removal of C101 and maybe a reduction in power supply noise getting into the signal?
Any comments?
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How would the output fets be biased? Wouldn't you lose the loading of the FE as well as the stabilization mechanism of R12 and C3.
Hmmm, yes I think something should be done there? Also the 45mA can't all go through the TL part so maybe we could incompass the loading and the large portion of the Q3 qnd Q4 current through a seperate set of Rs and a third to ground?
P1, 2 and 3 would still be useable.
This only works of coarse on the comp (BA-2) version.
P1, 2 and 3 would still be useable.
This only works of coarse on the comp (BA-2) version.
I don't understand why new BA-3 driver/gain amp and BA-2 power amp module can't use individual seperate supply, unlike the F5
so, I ask again, any reason not to use individual seperate power supply ?
only connection really needed is common signal, yes?
My amp uses a separate shunt regulated power supply for the input board with just the ground tied together with the follower supply. I’m running this at about 5 volts higher than the output section at +-28V.
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I don't understand why new BA-3 driver/gain amp and BA-2 power amp module can't use individual seperate supply, unlike the F5
I thought the driver/gain amp was more like a seperate preamp
and that you could use any other preamp, like say a tube pre
and the BA-2 is more like a power buffer, with its own bias curcuit
so, I ask again, any reason not to use individual seperate power supply ?
only connection really needed is common signal, yes?
there is similarity between BA3 FE and F5
for these two means that you can't use separate rails for input and output parts
BA3 FE and adjacent power stage are two different entities , so there you can use different rails ,whatever that means
ZM, What do you think about the integration of BA-3 with no cap, and 0V output, to the bias network of Ba-2 OP?
Maybe I need to complete the idea with a pic and some more thinking but???
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Maybe I need to complete the idea with a pic and some more thinking but???
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BA3 FE and adjacent power stage are two different entities , so there you can use different rails ,whatever that means
for the BA-FE(front end), one supply only, ofcourse
well, for one, means it 'could' be regulated supply (FE) 😉
ZM, What do you think about the integration of BA-3 with no cap, and 0V output, to the bias network of Ba-2 OP?
Maybe I need to complete the idea with a pic and some more thinking but???
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I'm fuzzy right now - what means that I'm not capable to find those schematics

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