Well, Bybee has a product that some people want and some don't, but we really shouldn't isolate him for scrutiny about his claims. He is by no means alone, nor are his efforts diabolical.
If one just looks at the Audiogon "tweaks" site, there are some really crazy things available from telephone tweaks (all i can say is 'are you serious?") to shatki stones (a weight might help a poorly cased amp, but don't tell me a certain material on top is going to alter the local magneto-acoustic waves in a meaningful way) and cable supports.
I bet even some of the skeptics about Bybees have their favorite meaningless tweak.
So intead of bashing bybee, lets bash the concept of tweaks that can have no measured, verifiable, consistant or meaningful benefit and cost a lot (bottles of colored stones? Get real, use a weight again...).
Share the ire!
If one just looks at the Audiogon "tweaks" site, there are some really crazy things available from telephone tweaks (all i can say is 'are you serious?") to shatki stones (a weight might help a poorly cased amp, but don't tell me a certain material on top is going to alter the local magneto-acoustic waves in a meaningful way) and cable supports.
I bet even some of the skeptics about Bybees have their favorite meaningless tweak.
So intead of bashing bybee, lets bash the concept of tweaks that can have no measured, verifiable, consistant or meaningful benefit and cost a lot (bottles of colored stones? Get real, use a weight again...).
Share the ire!
no! no! I like this thread.
I'm just waiting for the lady wrestlers to perform. Heard they will appear here too.
regards
I'm just waiting for the lady wrestlers to perform. Heard they will appear here too.
regards
Since most Neutrinos pass uninhibited through the entire mass of the earth and extraordinarily large and sensitive detectors are required to even capture an occasional one, I don't think I need anything that affects them in my stereo. Besides, that tweak might be larger than my house (or just plain do nothing ;-)...)
What is important is how they behave, and whether they have mass. You can forget the neutrino concept, unless you are really interested. However, electrons sometimes behave a bit like neutrinos, when they become Cooper's pairs. You might look that up, I found some great middle school and high school lectures that taught me plenty, just this morning. No fooling!
no! no! I like this thread.
I'm just waiting for the lady wrestlers to perform. Heard they will appear here too.
regards
Unfortunately the Fabulous Moolah has passed on.
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Scott,
Just to be sure, do you include the following case as violating information theory or not:
1) Given is a non-linear transmission system for analog data, where the signal occupies one range of frequencies and the unwanted noise occupies a different range of frequencies
2) Due to the non-linearity of the system we discuss some of the noise will "fold" the range of the wanted signal
3) A Filter is applied that filters the unwanted noise before it can enter the transmission system and hence the noise that is quite clearly measurable prior to applying the filter is (measurably) reduced or even eliminated.
If you agree that the above does not violate any particular strictures of the laws of physics, could (theoretically speaking) devices be made that operate according the above principles and thus reduce or eliminate noise?
As it so happens, such devices with the exact function described above have been used in Radio Studio equipment since the 1930's in Germany and no doubt in other countries, so theoretical justification and explanation or not, violation of information theory or not, in practical terms such devices and systems are ancient and in long continued use.
Otherwise am I to understand that we talk about selective filtering of signal and noise in same frequency and amplitude range? That would indeed require Maxwells Daemon or a similar entity, maybe the legendary Lou Cipher?.
Funny, I have been hearing this since the 80's but proof is still lacking. It would be nice though, if it was true.
It would explain the universe rather neatly, as in: "G*d(ess) counted from infinity to zero, information reached a critical quantety, transformed spontaneously into energy (the big bang) and from there we got matter.
Hey, one may even be able to make an information bomb, way cool.
Still, it does not tell us if our universe will continue, end in a even diffusion of hydrogen near 0K or face a Gnab Gib.
That would also be neat to know, together with the Answer to Fermi's Paradox. 🙂
Other than that, I am a great fan of violating laws, after all, they only exist to make honest people into criminals and require to be broken... 😛
Now if one could violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics, that would be kinda neat. I wonder if a British Policeman would turn up, Bobby Hat and all, to arrest us for breaking this Law? "Sir, would you please accompany me down to the station, you cannot just go and break the law, you know!"
Ciao T
PS, I am a Member of CSICON, hence the slightly surrealist approach above.
Just to be sure, do you include the following case as violating information theory or not:
1) Given is a non-linear transmission system for analog data, where the signal occupies one range of frequencies and the unwanted noise occupies a different range of frequencies
2) Due to the non-linearity of the system we discuss some of the noise will "fold" the range of the wanted signal
3) A Filter is applied that filters the unwanted noise before it can enter the transmission system and hence the noise that is quite clearly measurable prior to applying the filter is (measurably) reduced or even eliminated.
If you agree that the above does not violate any particular strictures of the laws of physics, could (theoretically speaking) devices be made that operate according the above principles and thus reduce or eliminate noise?
As it so happens, such devices with the exact function described above have been used in Radio Studio equipment since the 1930's in Germany and no doubt in other countries, so theoretical justification and explanation or not, violation of information theory or not, in practical terms such devices and systems are ancient and in long continued use.
Otherwise am I to understand that we talk about selective filtering of signal and noise in same frequency and amplitude range? That would indeed require Maxwells Daemon or a similar entity, maybe the legendary Lou Cipher?.
Funny, I have been hearing this since the 80's but proof is still lacking. It would be nice though, if it was true.
It would explain the universe rather neatly, as in: "G*d(ess) counted from infinity to zero, information reached a critical quantety, transformed spontaneously into energy (the big bang) and from there we got matter.
Hey, one may even be able to make an information bomb, way cool.
Still, it does not tell us if our universe will continue, end in a even diffusion of hydrogen near 0K or face a Gnab Gib.
That would also be neat to know, together with the Answer to Fermi's Paradox. 🙂
Other than that, I am a great fan of violating laws, after all, they only exist to make honest people into criminals and require to be broken... 😛
Now if one could violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics, that would be kinda neat. I wonder if a British Policeman would turn up, Bobby Hat and all, to arrest us for breaking this Law? "Sir, would you please accompany me down to the station, you cannot just go and break the law, you know!"
Ciao T
PS, I am a Member of CSICON, hence the slightly surrealist approach above.
Hi Cal, do I still have to be on moderation? I have been good, haven't I?
Hi Cal,
If it works don't fix it. 😀
Cheers,
E.
All of the above are fine. The last statement is exactly the claim, a posteriori knowledge of what was noise and what was signal.
>PS, I am a Member of CSICON, hence the slightly surrealist approach above.
Then you must know all 23 flavors in Dr. Pepper.
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seems to be an interesting sport. How come I missed it? 😕
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thanks for the hint! 🙂
Remarkable, isn't it? Twenty-seven pages and no one has considered the social consequences of spending big money on a resistor-like device marketed as a quantum purifier. The name shouts bunkum in neon lettering surrounded by a purple aura. You might as well be seen on the bus reading David Icke. Wearing only your underwear.
And when you've bought them (or made them yourself) and installed them, are you going to invite your friends round, point excitedly at them and exclaim: "Look! Quantum purifiers!" Not unless you want to look like a right berk, you won't.
And when you've bought them (or made them yourself) and installed them, are you going to invite your friends round, point excitedly at them and exclaim: "Look! Quantum purifiers!" Not unless you want to look like a right berk, you won't.
I recommend to those who condemn without examination to not consider Bybee Purifiers for their audio system. It would be too embarrassing, no matter what the result. Jack doesn't need your business, he is old and tired. He would rather be doing other things, as well, just like I don't like to make much, any more.
Even to the rest who have no wish to condemn, I'd myself not recommend the choice of Bybee Purifiers as Mr Bybee has not, to my knowledge made clear what exactly they're purifying, or even that purification is a requirement.😛
Argument obviously flawed because friends of people who look like right berks tend to share that characteristic themselves. Ergo, no-one will notice.
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