I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

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danielwritesbac said:
I wonder about stranded cable.
Some have the fibers individually insulated and then wound tight.
Some have the fibers uninsulated and then wound tight.
Some are individually insulated and then wound non-tight.

In a pinch, I'll use 16ga lamp wire for the tracks in my power supply, but in order to do so, I have to strip, rewind, gel flux, and solder the entire business solid. The appearance of each track looks like a stick of glossy silver when finished. The caps are positioned in a "bucking" arrangement, not exactly parallel in appearance, but more "pressed together" in order to use the shortest cap lead possible with the greatest contact surface. The dry assembly already makes tight contact before soldering begins. The point is decreased noise. The assembly is fast and easy. For power supply, this works quite well!
This extremely simple DC power supply reads as no resistance to an AC ohmmeter; but, caps and filters alone don't usually do that without the careful wiring (exception: unless you add more parts).
However, it does make me wonder if the wiring technique doesn't also apply (mean something) no matter if the power is dc or if it is ac (ac--such as speaker level audio ac signal)?
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Guess this is something you have to experience yourself to start see the light😱

If you care to bother you might get a hint of what`s in this just by doing some solid-core powercables . Just check out what happens to the dynanics😉

Bright-headed engineers will have a problem with this cause they don`t know how to meashure it. Poor guys🙄
 
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cbdb said:
The latest one Ive seen is that quantum tunneling between strands is a problem.

Heres a question for the believers. The most demanding situation for a cable is between a mic and a mic preamp. The cables are usually long, sometimes over 200 ft, and then the signal is amplified buy as much as 60db. Recording engineers will spend $5k to $15k on a mic but usually use mic cables on them that cost a few dollars a foot. Are they deaf morons, or are basic, solidly engineered cables all you need?
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They are morons.
 
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IOW, no evidence. That's a problem- you're not giving an opinion, you're making a fact-claim about a specific physical phenomenon. And that fact-claim makes no physical sense, is contradicted by experience (you don't see multiple traces on high speed oscilloscopes despite stranded wire in the probe leads), and the notion violates superposition. Not exactly a basis to wag your finger at Andy.
 
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Strand jumping is a phenomenon in high voltage environments. I presume that the reason for high voltage conductors in TV sets (grid, focus and screen wires) are made of solid core for this reason.
Audio applications can not possibly suffer from strand jumping as there is no high voltage involved at an amplifiers output.
 
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Netlist said:
Strand jumping is a phenomenon in high voltage environments. I presume that the reason for high voltage conductors in TV sets (grid, focus and screen wires) are made of solid core for this reason.
Audio applications can not possibly suffer from strand jumping as there is no high voltage involved at an amplifiers output.
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High Voltage Wires & Cables

40kV seems pretty high to me.
 
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Netlist said:
Strand jumping is a phenomenon in high voltage environments. I presume that the reason for high voltage conductors in TV sets (grid, focus and screen wires) are made of solid core for this reason.
Audio applications can not possibly suffer from strand jumping as there is no high voltage involved at an amplifiers output.
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Do you actually have experience with the high voltage wiring in a typical TV set?
Does everyone here just make up crap as they go along?
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In any case, ‘strand jumping’ is a borrowed term from the electric power industry as far as I could find out. I also found that it has nothing to do with audio whatsoever apart from charlatans trying to sell you another gimmick.
A name worth Googling is Dr. Howard Johnson.
 
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Netlist said:
In any case, ‘strand jumping’ is a borrowed term from the electric power industry as far as I could find out. I also found that it has nothing to do with audio whatsoever apart from charlatans trying to sell you another gimmick.
A name worth Googling is Dr. Howard Johnson.
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I would hardly rule that out just yet. Having played around with speaker internal wiring of about 45cm, I found that too many strands will give a slight glare to the sound giving the impression of more detail. I found that multiple strands of #24 wire individually insulated gives the cleanest and most transparant sound.
 
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